【コラボインタビュー】＜前編＞メタ思考_俯瞰力で仕事も人生も豊かに_澤円が語る役割と自己肯定感 #メタ思考 #自己肯定感

In this episode of "olly club," we spoke with Madoka Sawa, former Microsoft executive and author of "Meta Thinking." The theme of the first part was "What is meta thinking?" She spoke about the importance of being able to see things from a bird's eye view, the work philosophy hidden in the story of the bricklayer, and the importance of reexamining "why you do what you do." Furthermore, focusing on the concept of "aliases" that allow you to switch roles, she introduces ways to maintain self-esteem, ways of thinking that reduce worries about interpersonal relationships, and tips for breaking free from the curse of "it's meaningless unless I'm the best in the world." This is practical and uplifting content for students struggling with career development and working adults who are unsure about work or relationships. Be sure to check it out. ▼Cast▼ Guest: Madoka Sawa, CEO of Endomado Co., Ltd. Instagram:   / madoka_sawa   X: https://x.com/madoka510 Host: Norikatsu Mitsumura Instagram:   / 0420_norikatsu   X: https://x.com/0420Norikatsu ▼Table of Contents▼ Digest Theme 1 04:47 What is meta-thinking? 10:12 What is aliasing? 14:29 Things to be aware of about aliasing 15:03 Characteristics of people who can't think in terms of aliasing 19:33 Advanced Edition: "4-Quadrant Matrix" Next Episode Preview ▼Related Videos▼ Watch the second part of the interview here! Student group olly: https://www.olly3.com/ For inquiries about collaborations or programs, contact: [email protected] Operated by: Swimmy Co., Ltd.