La naissance de la tragédie | Nietzsche, Freud et le meurtre du père

#Freud #Nietzsche #TheBirthOfTragedy #MidouzaPodcast In this episode of Podcast Midouza, we move from religious anthropology and the history of societies to the clinical study of art and literature, starting with a central question: how did Greek tragedy originate? Why do we need to see the hero suffer? And why does his downfall sometimes give us a strange feeling of relief? Nietzsche sees it as the fruit of a fruitful conflict between two fundamental forces: Apollo, god of dreams, form, measure, and individuation; and Dionysus, god of intoxication, ecstasy, and the dissolution of the individual into the community and into nature. But Freud radically shifts the question. Where Nietzsche seeks a metaphysics of art, Freud reads tragedy as a psychic scene: the suffering hero becomes the image of the primal father, while the chorus recalls the band of brothers guilty of the original murder. Tragedy, therefore, would not only be an art of the sublime and of painful beauty. It would also be a collective way of reenacting an old transgression, of displacing guilt, and of transforming the crime into spectacle. In this episode, we will discuss, among other things: • Nietzsche's opposition between Apollo and Dionysus • Dreams, form, and the principle of individuation • Dionysian intoxication and the dissolution of the individual • The birth of tragedy from the chorus • The tragic hero as an Apollonian vision of Dionysus's suffering • The Freudian reading of the tragic hero as a figure of the primal father • The chorus as a band of brothers from the original clan • Tragedy as a masked reenactment of the murder of the father • Theater as a collective device for alleviating guilt -------------------------- Bibliography: Nietzsche, Friedrich, The Birth of Tragedy or Hellenism and Pessimism, Translated by J. Marnold and J. Morland (1906), Electronic edition v. : 1.0: Les Échos du Maquis, 2011. Freud, Sigmund, Totem and Taboo: Some Concordances Between the Psychic Life of Savages and That of Neurotics, trans. Samuel Jankélévitch, Paris, Payot, 1965. Freud, Sigmund, Moses and Monotheism, trans. Jean-Pierre Lefebvre (2010), Paris, Editions Points, 2012, Points Essays Collection. Freud, Sigmund, Civilization and Its Discontents, trans. Dorian Astor, introduction, dossier, and notes by Pierre Pellegrin. Charles and Jeanne Odier, Paris, Flammarion, 2010. Aristotle, Poetics, French Academy edition, new revised and corrected edition, translated by Charles Batteux and Michel Magnien, Publisher: J. Delalain (Paris), 1874, digital edition: 2016, Collecyio, XIX of the BnF. René Girard, Violence and the Sacred, Bernard Grasset, 1972. ----------------------------- #Freud #Nietzsche #psychoanalysis #Psychoanalysis #Philosophy #GreekTragedy #TheBirthOfTragedy #Apollo #Dionysus #ArtAndPsychoanalysis #LiteratureAndPsychoanalysis #MurderOfTheFather #PrimitiveFather #PrimitiveHorde #Guilt #GreekTheatre #TotemAndTaboo #MidouzaPodcast #Philosophy #GreekTragedy #TheBirthOfTragedy #Apollo #Dionysus #ArtAndPsychoanalysis #LiteratureAndPsychoanalysis Analysis #MurderOfTheFather #PrimalFather #PrimalHorde #Guilt #GreekTheatre #TotemAndTaboo #MidouzaPodcast #Psychoanalysis #Philosophy #GreekTragedy #TheBirthOfTragedy #Apollo #Dionysus #ArtAndPsychoanalysis #LiteratureAndPsychoanalysis #MurderOfTheFather #PrimalFather #PrimalHorde #Guilt #GreekTheatre #TotemAndTaboo #MidouzaPodcast