Joel Lewenstein - Pursuing ambitious design ideas (Dive Club Ep. 77)

This week’s episode is with Joel Lewenstein(  / joel-lewenstein  ) who is the Head of Product Design at Anthropic (https://www.anthropic.com/) where he works on cutting edge AI products like Claude (https://claude.ai/). After 80+ episodes, I can honestly say this one’s “juice per minute” score is off the charts. Some of my favorite highlights: How the team prototyped Claude Artifacts New mental models for designing AI products The way designers shape strategy at Anthropic How to master the dark art of prompting as a designer The future of language as the dominant interface for AI Designing for infinite degrees of freedom vs. user journeys How Joel designed his interview process at Airtable/Anthropic + a lot more… The CEO of Anthropic Dario Amodei’s essay: Machines of Loving Grace (https://darioamodei.com/machines-of-l...) A new 3 minute video showing how the team built Claude Artifacts (   • How we built Artifacts with Claude  ) Chad Thornton (  / chadthornton  ) was the Head of Design at Airtable Everett Katigbak (  / typochondriac  ) is the Brand Creative Director at Anthropic Kim Bost (https://www.kimbost.com/) is the design leader Joel collaborates with a lot Joel mentioned Jason Yuan’s interview (https://www.dive.club/deep-dives/jaso...) about designing AI products with soul Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:08 Building for the future as well as today 14:40 Departure from defined user journeys 20:59 Example of designing with AI as a material 24:12 The backstory of designing Claude Artifacts 27:25 How designers contribute to strategy through systems thinking 30:46 How Joel thinks about org design 39:40 The importance of psychological safety Dive is where the best designers never stop learning 🤿 🌐 dive.club 🐦 twitter.com/joindiveclub Now you can join advanced courses taught by the top designers to help you take a huge leap forward in your career 💪 #productdesign #uiux #podcast