Jamie Bartlett with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on AI, trust and the internet
Jamie Bartlett, author of How to Talk to AI: (And How Not To), has spent 15 years investigating the strange corners of the internet before they crash into the mainstream. In this episode, he joins Rory and Elfried to explore how AI, video, podcasts, crypto, conspiracy culture and online subcultures are changing how we think, trust and behave. From chatbot delusions and “techno admin” to why outsiders often spot the future first, they discuss what happens when new technology meets human nature with often unexpected outcomes. Timestamps 00:00 – Hiw the weird internet predicts the future 04:21 – Why new technology starts with outsiders 12:33 – AI hype and the trends nobody notices 14:21 – How video changed politics 18:10 – Why everything became “front page news” 20:40 – Fake news, context and misleading truth 23:16 – Why podcasts are rebuilding trust 35:48 – Why technology doesn’t always improve companies 40:26 – “Techno admin” and how companies outsource work to you 42:20 – When useful technology becomes an obligation 49:54 – Why people treat AI like a horoscope 54:42 – Talking vs typing: the AI shift nobody discusses 55:45 – How AI mirrors emotion and creates attachment 01:01:11 – Why companies use AI for cost-cutting 01:02:19 – The junior talent problem AI could create 01:06:01 – Why AI works best as a creative assistant 01:13:34 – AI, emotion and what still makes us human 01:14:23 – How AI can manipulate you 01:15:28 – Why voice could transform customer service 01:17:29 – The best use of AI: killing techno admin 01:21:06 – Jamie’s book: How to Talk to AI Follow Rory Instagram: @rorysutherland_clips TikTok: @Rorysutherlandclips X: @rorysutherland LinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/ Follow Elfried Instagram: @elfriedsamba LinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/ https://www.butterflyeffect.xyz/ Follow Jamie Instagram: @jamiejbartlett/ LinkedIn: in/jamie-bartlett-a091b6134/ X: @JamieJBartlett https://www.penguin.co.uk/authors/233... A Sassy+ original podcast series
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