Entreprises : sans coopération, pas de transition, avec Martin Werlen, co-fondateur de Résiliences

In this episode of the Regeneration Talks, I welcome Martin Werlen, co-founder of Résiliences, a cooperative that supports organizations in adopting more cooperative, autonomous, and responsible ways of working. Together, we explore a question that runs through all the challenges of our time: why and how should we cooperate—within companies, but also between companies? Martin discusses the often misunderstood difference between collaboration and cooperation, the concrete conditions that allow cooperation to truly flourish, and the reasons why companies, despite their increasing interdependence, still struggle to form alliances. He also shares inspiring examples—the CEC and Loom—that demonstrate how cooperative approaches, driven by often small-scale actors, can transform entire systems. This interview offers a profound examination of our organizational models and outlines the contours of an economy capable of regenerating rather than extracting. -- 🔔 Subscribe so you don't miss any episodes about practices that regenerate our world. — People and projects mentioned: Julia Faure, founder of Loom and the Impact France Movement Pablo Servigne, author ADEME's Extreme Challenge: https://xd.ademe.fr/ Resiliences website: https://resiliences.co/ -- Chapters 03:14 The necessity of cooperation in a complex world 07:21 Cooperation vs. collaboration 10:50 Going beyond execution 15:38 Participatory simulations and the real conditions of cooperation 16:25 Complementarity and new skills: what this implies for HR 19:19 Cooperation between organizations: challenges and examples 23:30 The CEC, a path of cooperation between leaders 26:00 Loom and collective advocacy: when small players join forces to change the rules 30:22 Limits of cooperation in company 28:01 The Extreme Challenge ADEME: when public authorities drive cooperation 32:45 Which organizations cooperate best? Social and Solidarity Economy (SSE), Cooperatives, Pablo Servigne 36:43 Advice for companies committed to a regenerative approach -- ✨ Join the newsletter: https://lesentretiensdelaregeneration... ✨ Watch other interviews related to governance and cooperation in companies: •    • L'organisation consciente avec Francesca Pick   •    • Régénérons nos organisations avec Olivier ...   ✨ Contribute to the development of the Regeneration Interviews to allow me to summarize the lessons learned in other formats (thank you!): Tipeee: https://fr.tipeee.com/les-entretiens-... PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/entre... -- Music credits: Jellyfish (Chill Lofi) by Tokiwave Funk For Friends by Jay Man #cooperation #regeneration #governance #CEC #economic_models