「グリーンバーグ＝フォーマリズム」は誤解！？カント美学から紐解くグリーンバーグ入門【グリーンバーグ研究者・大澤慶久さんインタビュー（前編）】

Is the understanding that "Greenberg equals formalism" truly correct? This time, we interviewed Yoshihisa Osawa, author of the new book *Clement Greenberg: The Logic of Taste / The Ethics of Criticism (Revolutionaries of Knowledge)*, who has been researching Greenberg for 20 years. We discussed Greenberg's upbringing, Jewish identity, avant-garde and kitsch, his relationship with Kantian aesthetics, and even his aesthetic judgments. This episode is recommended not only for those interested in contemporary art and criticism, but also for those who have heard the name Greenberg but are wondering, "What's so important about him?" 🔵Featured Book Clement Greenberg: The Logic of Taste / The Ethics of Criticism: Revolutionaries of Knowledge (2026, by Yoshihisa Osawa) https://comet-bc.stores.jp/items/6996... 🔵Guest Yoshihisa Osawa Born in Kanagawa Prefecture in 1981. Researcher of aesthetics, art history, and art criticism. Instructor at Asahi Culture Center, and part-time lecturer at Tokyo University of the Arts, etc. https://x.com/osawa_yoshihisa 🔵Table of Contents 00:00 Interview with the author of Clement Greenberg's new book! 00:46 Introduction of Yoshihisa Osawa 02:39 I've been researching Greenberg since my undergraduate thesis. 03:37 I wanted to summarize Greenberg's character from perspectives other than formalism, modernism, and planarness. 05:57 A Greenberg book filled with 20 years of aspirations. 06:23 A slightly hardcore introductory book on Greenberg that even undergraduate students can pick up. 08:31 Who was Greenberg? 09:08 What is formalism? 09:33 Misunderstandings about "Greenberg-Formalism" 11:23 Jewish Identity and Critical Activity 13:56 The Relationship Between Americanism and Greenberg 16:49 What are Aesthetic Judgments and Aesthetic Intuition? 19:43 Greenberg and the Importance of Kantian Aesthetics 21:15 Modernist Painting is Just a Phrase 21:47 Interest in Kant from the Beginning 23:21 The Originality of This Book 24:48 The Highlights of This Book Will Be Revealed in Part Two! Subscribing to our channel encourages our activities! https://www.youtube.com/@bijutsu-dode... Live streams are also available for members!    / @bijutsu-dodeshou   What is "Art, How About It?" This channel features art critics and art bloggers discussing art in an enjoyable way, based on the theme of "perspective over knowledge." From exhibitions and art news to artist profiles and collections, we deliver the fun of thinking about and articulating it from various angles! We aim to be a program that "delivers an artistic perspective and helps you acquire the language to talk about art." Profile Minami Shima (Art Critic) https://x.com/muik99 Born in 1994. Art critic and art writer. Dropped out of the doctoral program in Fine Arts at Tokyo University of the Arts Graduate School (Aesthetics). After working as a curator at the Yokohama Museum of Art (2021-2025), he became independent. Currently, he is in charge of the art corner "Let's Meet at the Museum with Minami Shima" on NHK Radio's "My Asa!" and writes the exhibition review series "Kenbunroku" for Kyodo News. He writes reviews and critiques of modern and contemporary paintings for various media outlets, runs the "Koreport" project which reviews permanent exhibitions at museums nationwide, and conducts art education activities through art writing workshops. Yoshiteru (Blogger/Art Collector) https://x.com/uzuraism Born in 1993. Since February 2021, he has been running the owned media "Art Suki." Based in Tokyo, he has published over 200 articles on exhibition reviews, artist interviews, how to purchase and display artwork, all articulating the "indefinable joy of art." He purchased his first piece of art in 2021 (as of June 2025, his collection consists of about 30 pieces). While I strive to provide the most accurate information possible, there may be variations in interpretation and understanding. Since many themes in the art world have multiple interpretations, I hope you will enjoy the range of interpretations. I will mark helpful supplementary information and comments with hearts, so please feel free to check out the comments section! (Photo: Minamishima/Yoshiteru) #Art #FineArt #Beauty -------------------------------------------------------- BGM: Thomas Oomori Music Studio    / @fm_thomasoomori   --------------------------------------------------------