026: Robert Carver talks trading rules and the dangers of over-fitting strategies [AUDIO ONLY]

Overfitting trading strategies is more dangerous than most traders realise - Robert Carver spent 7 years managing a multi-billion dollar portfolio at AHL and explains why the standard walk-forward test gives you false confidence. ► Full article: https://bettersystemtrader.com/026-ro... In this episode: • The four criteria every good trading rule must meet - and why a simple trend following rule passes all four while complex models often fail • Why there isn't much hidden alpha: the case for trading well-known persistent effects rather than searching for secrets • Why 1-year walk-forward windows are statistically meaningless, and how long you actually need • The counterintuitive finding: averaging across rule variations consistently outperforms selecting the best one 0:00 Introduction 5:33 What actually makes a good trading rule 8:19 Robert's view on alpha: there isn't much of it 11:46 The problem with walk-forward testing 17:30 Why averaging beats selecting 24:00 Continuous rules vs. binary rules 31:00 How Robert built his own system after leaving AHL 37:00 What institutional traders do differently Related episodes: • "How to avoid trading strategies that degrade quickly" - Timothy Masters:    • "How to avoid trading strategies that degr...   • 060: Strategy Optimization with Robert Pardo:    • 060: Strategy Optimization with Robert Par...   • 046: Perry Kaufman on building algorithmic trading strategies:    • 046: Perry Kaufman on building algorithmic...   Robert Carver's research on overfitting trading strategies cuts against common practice: walk-forward testing with short windows does not protect you from curve-fitting the way most traders assume. You need at least 10 years of data to make a statistically sound judgment about a rule's profitability, and averaging across parameter variations beats picking the "best" one in almost every test he ran. --- ► Better System Trader: https://bettersystemtrader.com ► Follow on X:   / bettersystrader   #SystemTrading #AlgoTrading #TradingStrategies Trading in the financial markets involves a substantial risk of loss. All content produced by Better System Trader is for informational or educational purposes only and does not constitute trading or investment advice. ---

027: Dr Gary Dayton discusses Mindfulness and how it can improve your trading [AUDIO ONLY]
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027: Dr Gary Dayton discusses Mindfulness and how it can improve your trading [AUDIO ONLY]

"3 ways traders kill their trading strategies (and how to avoid them)" - Rob Carver
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"3 ways traders kill their trading strategies (and how to avoid them)" - Rob Carver

012 Ernest Chan on quantitative trading, drawdown, automated trading and more [AUDIO ONLY]
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012 Ernest Chan on quantitative trading, drawdown, automated trading and more [AUDIO ONLY]

033 - Rob Carver - The Comprehensive Guide to a Diversified Futures Strategy
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033 - Rob Carver - The Comprehensive Guide to a Diversified Futures Strategy

Diversification of Trading Strategies | Robert Carver
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Diversification of Trading Strategies | Robert Carver

085: Intraday Daytrading Strategies with Gary Hart [AUDIO ONLY]
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085: Intraday Daytrading Strategies with Gary Hart [AUDIO ONLY]

Anton Kreil Explains What A Trader at an Investment Bank Does
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Anton Kreil Explains What A Trader at an Investment Bank Does

039: Michael Cook discusses position sizing, stops and discretion in algo trading. [AUDIO ONLY]
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039: Michael Cook discusses position sizing, stops and discretion in algo trading. [AUDIO ONLY]

"Trading Strategies that are Designed, Not Fitted" by Robert Carver from QuantCon NYC 2017
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"Trading Strategies that are Designed, Not Fitted" by Robert Carver from QuantCon NYC 2017

"How to avoid trading strategies that degrade quickly" - Timothy Masters
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"How to avoid trading strategies that degrade quickly" - Timothy Masters

076: Entries, Exits and Trend Following with LarryTentarelli [AUDIO ONLY]
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076: Entries, Exits and Trend Following with LarryTentarelli [AUDIO ONLY]

073: Combining simple concepts to build robust strategies with Art Collins [AUDIO ONLY]
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073: Combining simple concepts to build robust strategies with Art Collins [AUDIO ONLY]

016: Trading champion Andrea Unger shares tips to creating trading strategies that work [AUDIO ONLY]
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016: Trading champion Andrea Unger shares tips to creating trading strategies that work [AUDIO ONLY]

The Art and Science of Algorithmic Futures Trading · Kyle Schultz
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The Art and Science of Algorithmic Futures Trading · Kyle Schultz

062: How to Build Mean Reversion Strategies with PJ Sutherland  [AUDIO ONLY]
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062: How to Build Mean Reversion Strategies with PJ Sutherland [AUDIO ONLY]

This quants’ approach to algorithmic trading—Michael Halls-Moore, QuantStart
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This quants’ approach to algorithmic trading—Michael Halls-Moore, QuantStart

Systematic Trading and Trend Following 101
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Systematic Trading and Trend Following 101

024: Dr Van Tharp discusses beliefs in trading, why traders fail and market types [AUDIO ONLY]
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024: Dr Van Tharp discusses beliefs in trading, why traders fail and market types [AUDIO ONLY]

004: Nick Radge discusses the best trading systems and what makes successful traders. [AUDIO ONLY]
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004: Nick Radge discusses the best trading systems and what makes successful traders. [AUDIO ONLY]

The Purely Systematic Wizard Trader · Marsten Parker
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The Purely Systematic Wizard Trader · Marsten Parker