EP 14 La mujer detrás de la mamá con Cata Schaerer (Mamá sin Caos) | M de Mujer Podcast

In this episode, we talk with Catalina Schaerer, better known as Mamá Sin Caos (Mom Without Chaos). A lucid and real voice about the chaos (and order) of being a mother... but also about being a woman, a partner, a body, and a mind of her own. We talk about the guilt that doesn't go away with postpartum, the desire to be more than just a mother, and how to resist mandates and reconnect with oneself amidst the noise. 00:00 Cata introduces the idea that the perception of being a good mother involves excessive sacrifices. She recounts her experience with depression after feeling overwhelmed by the expectations of motherhood. She highlights the importance of self-care and how it can be misinterpreted as selfishness. She comments on her complicated relationship with her body during and after pregnancy. 06:11 Cata Schaerer shares her experience undertaking a communications project while adapting to her new life as a mother, highlighting the importance of addressing women in their role as mothers. Cata begins to build her business, seeing it as a serious job rather than a simple hobby. After the birth of her second child, she seeks a new career direction in communications. She recognizes that social media is her only viable platform for communication and decides to utilize her knowledge in this field. She proposes creating a social media account that speaks directly to mothers, emphasizing their importance and personal value. 12:24 She shares her personal experience of growing up on social media and her struggle with self-care and mental health after becoming a mother. Cata mentions the exponential growth of her social media followers, highlighting how the pressure and focus on communication changed over time. She reflects on her life before becoming a mother, describing herself as a damaged person who prioritized work and the opinions of others, which led to severe depression. She shares a critical moment in her life in 2015, when she felt unable to get out of bed, reflecting on her mental and physical state during that period. 6:38 PM In this section, Cata Schaerer reflects on her experience as a mother and content creator, highlighting her search for her vocation and her relationship with sleep and organization in her daily life. 12:49 PM The presenter shares her approach to order in her life, prioritizing her personal well-being over that of her partner, children, or work. The concept of "gray divorce" is discussed, where older couples face the void left by raising children and the need to reconnect with each other. The conversation focuses on the true meaning of self-care, beyond superficial activities, emphasizing a mental shift. 31:02 The importance of scheduling quality time as a couple and how the energy dynamics between men and women affect relationships is addressed. It is emphasized that women are reactive and amplify the affection they receive, which highlights the need for men to take the initiative in relationships. The need to schedule appointments and quality time in the relationship. The importance of creating a welcoming environment and enjoying each other's company. Women react to and amplify the affection they receive, which can influence the couple's dynamic. The priority in the relationship should be the couple, not just the children, and distraction-free time should be reserved. 37:14 Motherhood and parenting support are central themes, addressing the guilt felt by mothers and the importance of partner support. I don't like being pregnant and the topic of breastfeeding. An awkward question is introduced, suggesting a shift in conversation toward more personal or challenging topics. 43:28 The uncertainty that accompanies motherhood and the importance of maintaining a curious and flexible mindset to face daily challenges are addressed. Motherhood presents uncertainties that can generate anxiety, but also curiosity. Adopting a curious attitude is beneficial for both mother and children. Chaos doesn't mean total disorder, but rather having a healthy relationship with problems and mistakes. It's crucial to maintain an order of priorities and be flexible in the face of life's changes. The reality of being a mother can be chaotic, but it's about managing the disorder effectively.