Кінець ІТ-аутсорсу, пастка безкоштовних хмар та «червона кнопка» Трампа. Інтерв'ю з CEO De Novo

Imagine that tomorrow, a conditional Trump would press the “red button” and cut off Ukraine’s access to the world’s largest clouds. Or that a $20 subscription to ChatGPT would forever put Ukrainian IT outsourcers out of work. Sounds like a cyberpunk dystopia? But this is our new reality. Today, over 80% of the data of Ukrainian businesses and government institutions is stored abroad. Because of the war, they have become the same “refugees” as millions of people. However, the era of free credits from Amazon and Microsoft is coming to an end, and companies are receiving cosmic checks for their servers. In addition, the myth of the absolute security of Western data centers has finally dispelled against the backdrop of new global conflicts. We were visited by Maxim Ageev, co-founder and CEO of De Novo (the first national cloud). We frankly talked about: Why free clouds are a trap from which it is impossible to get out. Does it make sense for the state to hide data centers deep underground or in the Carpathians? How $2 million in investments in AI servers work. Why the era of classic Ukrainian IT outsourcing is rapidly coming to an end. What is true digital sovereignty and why it's time for us to stop running away. Turn on the video to find out what awaits the Ukrainian technology market, your data and profession in the near future! Share in the comments: are you ready for AI to take over routine tasks, and where, in your opinion, is the safest place to store data during war? 00:00 — Highlights: Does Trump have a red button from AWS? 00:31 — Meet the guest: Maksym Ageev, CEO De Novo 01:27 — 80% of Ukrainian data abroad. Why did data become "refugees"? 03:43 — Cloud Economy and “Unexpected Checks”: When Business Becomes Expensive Abroad 06:07 — The Trap of Free Credits from AWS and Microsoft 12:04 — A Case Study of Two Systemic Banks: Moving Abroad vs. Living in Ukraine 15:19 — What Will Happen if a Rocket Hits a Data Center? Data-centric Concept 17:24 — Telecom Weaknesses and Evacuation of Bank Data from Crimea 21:49 — Are Local Ukrainian Clouds Really Worse Than Western Analogues? 25:31 — The end of freebies: how grants ended and what vendor lock-in is 31:10 — The myth of Western security: Iran's strike and new threats to mega-data centers 34:36 — The geopolitics of data and the world's dependence on the "Big Three" 37:17 — The Israeli case: how Microsoft blocked access to data for political reasons 43:18 — The "Tatar-Mongol camp": why Ukraine still does not have a cloud strategy 47:41 — Digital sovereignty: which databases absolutely cannot be exported 52:02 — $2 million in AI servers De Novo: is Ukrainian business buying artificial intelligence? 55:15 — The state's purchase of AI servers for UAH 200 million — a toy or the right move? 59:41 — The end of the outsourcing era: will AI take away Ukrainian IT workers’ jobs 01:01:28 — New cybersecurity threats from AI: models that write exploits themselves 01:08:15 — Should data centers be hidden in the mountains or deep underground? 01:12:12 — Ministries of Digitalization and Cloud Federalization: Are Providers Ready to Build New Data Centers 01:17:49 — Ukrainian Cloud Market Has Grown 5 Times: Forecasts for the Year 01:21:12 — Vulnerability Zone Concept: How Ukrainians Plan to Surpass Amazon’s Reliability 01:22:57 — Conclusions and Farewells