210 | What Thriving Churches Are Actually Doing Differently

What separates churches that are truly thriving… from those that are just getting by? In Episode 210 of the Fly on the Wall Podcast, Chris sits down with Justin to unpack what he’s seeing across churches of every size—and the patterns that consistently show up in churches that are growing, healthy, and sustainable. This isn’t theory. It’s what’s actually working right now. In this episode, you’ll discover: Why authenticity and real spiritual movement matter more than ever How the speed of engagement is changing everything—and why waiting 6–9 months is too long The shift from relying on outside leaders to building your own leadership pipeline Why apprenticeship (not just classes) is the key to developing real leaders How to move from just having a system… to creating a weekly rhythm of leadership growth The difference between managing a ministry and multiplying leaders Why your scorecard should focus on who you’re developing—not just what you’re doing One of the biggest takeaways: Thriving churches are not leaving leadership development to chance—they are building intentional pathways and investing in people at every level. If you’re serious about growth, this conversation will challenge the way you think about engagement, leadership, and long-term sustainability. 👉 Listen to Episode 210 and sit in on this coaching session: And if you’re ready to take the next step in your leadership, head over to churchboom.org. From Church Boom University to coaching and community, there are tools designed to help you grow and lead with clarity. Let’s keep building what matters.