Caroline Samne on Teaching, Human‑Centric Leadership & Entrepreneurship | Making Your Mark

Teaching, human‑centric leadership, and entrepreneurship define Caroline Samne’s journey from psychology to organizational development. Her story shows how identity, agency, and conscious work shape the way we grow, lead, and design a fulfilling career. Caroline shares how early uncertainty, teaching breakthroughs, government bureaucracy, and the leap into entrepreneurship helped her build a life aligned with her values. Today, as co‑founder of The Pillars, she guides leaders through culture, change, and human‑centric transformation. Her path is a grounded look at choosing fulfillment, navigating stress, and building a career that supports who you are becoming. She opens up about: ✔️ Leaving psychology for human systems intervention ✔️ How teaching shaped her understanding of human behavior ✔️ Why capability isn’t about age — it’s about doing the work ✔️ Navigating government bureaucracy and choosing fulfillment ✔️ Redesigning life to support entrepreneurship ✔️ Building The Pillars with the right partner ✔️ Mindfulness, wellbeing, and conscious leadership --- Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Caroline Samne 02:25 Career Journey: From Social Services to Organizational Development 05:47 First Job After Undergrad 07:58 A Master’s in Psychology Wasn’t for Her 09:09 Discovering Human Systems Intervention 10:42 Field Supervisor Sparks Teaching Career 14:18 Lessons Learned Through Teaching 17:35 User‑Centric Approach to Teaching 20:47 Age vs Capability in Career Growth 24:33 Finding the Right Organizational Fit 29:42 Navigating Government Bureaucracy 34:42 Leaving Job Security for Fulfillment 36:21 Choosing Self‑Employment 38:59 Redesigning Life for Independent Work 42:15 Mental Preparation for Entrepreneurship 46:38 Building a Business vs Being Self‑Employed 53:33 Choosing the Right Business Partner 57:45 Navigating Partnership Challenges 01:04:24 Mindfulness and Wellbeing in Leadership --- Guest Links LinkedIn:   / caroline-samne   Website: https://www.thepillars.ca/organizatio... Follow Mark Bundang LinkedIn:   / markbundang   Medium:   / markbundang   Instagram:   / makingyourmarkpodcast   Facebook:   / mark.bundang.3   Listen to the Podcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh... Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... --- Hashtags #LeadershipStories #CareerClarity #EntrepreneurshipJourney #HumanCentricLeadership #TeachingToLead ________________________________________ 📢 Follow Mark Bundang for More Content: LinkedIn:   / markbundang   Medium:   / markbundang   Instagram:   / makingyourmarkpodcast   Facebook:   / mark.bundang.3   🎧 Listen to the Podcast on Other Platforms: Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh... Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... #MakingYourMarkPodcast #CareerStories #LifeJourneys #PersonalGrowth #YoungProfessionals