S2:E3 When The Mind Goes Quiet, The Body Remembers with Maira Holzmann

S2:E3 When The Mind Goes Quiet, The Body Remembers with Maira Holzmann In the last two episodes of Pay Attention, we explored why doing more isn’t the answer—and why deeply ingrained habits can’t be changed through intellectual insight or thinking alone. So what does create real change? In this episode, Holly McNeill is joined by somatic psychotherapist Maira Holzmann for a grounded conversation about what happens when awareness moves beyond thought and includes the body. Together, they explore how trauma lives in the nervous system, and how insight and clarity can be supported on the path to healing through body-based approaches. The conversation looks at how expanding awareness to include sensation, regulation, and the lived experience of the body—through practices such as somatic therapy and carefully supported psychedelic work—can help interrupt survival patterns and open the door to integration and change. Rather than positioning psychedelics as a solution, this episode places them in proper context: as one possible support for deepening awareness when used with intention, preparation, and integration. This episode is about remembering—not fixing. About embodiment, not effort. And about what becomes possible when awareness includes the whole system, not just the thinking mind.