Mark Sayers | America's Chaos, Future Predictions, The Worlds Changed, Church as a Pillar

In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Mark Sayers and discuss what Mark learned about ministry during the Melbourne lockdowns, why embodied ministry matters so much, how proceduralism has blunted the church's mission, how the church needs to be a pillar rather than a platform in the world, how everything is politically changing in the world, transcendence and immanence, what is means to be human, and how the Trump foreign policy will change Australia and New Zealand. Mark Sayers is the Lead Pastor of Red Church in Melbourne, Australia and contributor to the Rebuilders podcast with Daniel and Liddy. He is an international church thought leader helping ministry leaders navigate through a complex world. 00:00 Teaser 00:50 Introduction 03:25 What Mark learned during COVID 09:18 The world is craving embodied community - locally 15:44 localism is growing 18:04 Proceduralism may blunt the church's mission 23:47 Explaining the shift from Platforms to Pillars 33:28 Everything is changing about our world! 38:49 The church as a pillar - stability 43:15 People want transcendence and immanence 49:30 The church holds the space 50:35 Cynicism towards political project 59:25 Trump foreign policy will change AUS/NZ 1:10:25 Rapid fire questions! Lunch on The Way is a podcast that deeply discusses Christianity, Church, Culture, and Jesus. Available on ALL podcast platforms https://lunchontheway.buzzsprout.com/...