Mütter in Führung: Warum ihr eure besten Talente verliert | Melissa Sündram (Mom Goes Business)

For many executives, termination meetings are a nightmare. Restructuring rarely fails because of the social plan. It fails because of poorly prepared meetings. Decisions are made behind closed doors, far removed from reality, and the message never reaches those at the bottom the way it was intended. My guest, Manuela Kallinowsky, has overseen restructurings, including the Karstadt-Quelle insolvency. Her point: Hearts first, then minds. Change and communication go hand in hand from day one, and HR must take care of itself before carrying others through these conversations. 💬 Key message: "How you leave shapes the history for those who remain." Key takeaways: 1. Restructuring fails because of poorly prepared meetings, not because of the social plan. Change and communication go hand in hand from day one. 2. Your responsibility as a leader has its limits, but you must take care of yourself first before carrying others through these conversations. 3. Ultimately, the dignity of the people will determine how the remaining workforce continues to tell the story. ... Links to Manuela Kallinowsky: LinkedIn:   / manuelakallinowsky   Website: https://www.manuelakallinowsky.com/ Links to Ja klaHR: LinkedIn:   / berndt-stefan   Website: https://jaklahr.de/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jaklahr Event: https://calendly.com/stefan-jaklahr/3... Further links and recommendations: HRespect: https://www.hrespect.de/ MEONDI: https://www.meondi.com/karriere Northwind: https://northwind.de/ Ausbildung.de: https://www.ausbildung.de/ HWG LU: https://www.hwg-lu.de/ ubiMaster: https://www.ubimaster.com/de/ Presented by Leapsome, the HR platform for feedback, learning, and development: https://www.leapsome.com/de Chapters: 00:00 Termination Interviews: A Nightmare for Managers 00:55 Intro: Ja klaHR with Stefan Berndt 02:30 Why Restructuring Takes So Much Energy 03:20 What Really Starts a Restructuring 04:52 The Quiet Room: Decisions Far From Reality 07:11 Why Change and Communication Are Essential from Day One 08:53 The Champagne Glass Pyramid: Why Messages Don't Reach the Bottom 10:06 The Dilemma: Management Is Already Thinking Ahead 10:50 Partner Note: Leapsome 13:11 A Positive Example: Empowering Managers and HR Early On 15:03 Conducting Termination Interviews: Where does my responsibility end? 16:15 Inner work during the Karstadt-Quelle insolvency 16:45 Why HR needs to take good care of itself first 18:44 Clarifying your role before the conversation starts 20:43 Manuela's survival strategy: team, meditation, North Star 21:53 Like a doctor during an epidemic: why it makes sense to stay 25:59 Job loss as a life-changing moment 27:26 Hearts first, then minds 29:16 How vulnerable leaders should be 31:58 It's about human dignity 32:54 How you leave shapes the history for those who remain 34:19 Conclusion Your call to action! 👉 Leave a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐