Shannon B. & Kurt Z. ( The Self ) The Actor Stage Character ( Episode: 118 ) 6-3-26

In this episode of the Three Legacies Recovery Recordings Podcast, Paul welcomes Shannon B. from Summit, NJ, and Kurt Z. from Redondo Beach, CA. The trio dives into a deep exploration of the “self” as discussed in recovery. They reflect on how fear and mental narratives shape our perceptions, sharing personal stories and drawing on the Big Book, as well as thinkers like Richard Rohr. Shannon and Kurt candidly recount how the ego’s “condition” once drove their actions, and how spiritual awakening helped them reframe fear as a mental construct rather than an absolute truth. As the conversation unfolds, they discuss practical steps to remain aware of the self’s tendencies, emphasizing the importance of pausing, watching for agitation, and acting in response rather than reaction. They highlight that recovery is a process of seeing through the false narratives, and both share how they’ve come to live more freely, embracing a daily reprieve from self-obsession.