Reluctant paramount Chief Tumu Te Heuheu conducts first interview

Following the death of his father in 1997, Tumu Te Heuheu became the 8th appointed Ariki or paramount chief of Ngāti Tuwharetoa. Twice, The Listener included him on the list of the top 15 most influential New Zealanders. But who is this quietly-spoken reluctant leader known affectionately as 'Chief'? Moana Maniapoto sits down for his first one-on-one interview.