How to Invest When Everything Looks Expensive (Debt Funds, Office, Treasuries) Community Roundtable

Episode #276 Invest Smarter with PassivePockets. Start your FREE 7-day trial: https://passivepockets.com/?utm_sourc... Episode Show Notes: https://lnk.to/passivepockets Join BiggerPockets for free: https://www.biggerpockets.com/signup?... Buy the book “Recession-Proof Real Estate Investing”: https://store.biggerpockets.com/produ... Sign up for the Passive Investing Newsletter: https://www.biggerpockets.com/email-s... Join our network of passive investors: https://passivepockets.com/connect/?u... This Episode In this Community Roundtable, Chris Lopez sits down with PassivePockets members Pascal Wagner, Adam Cranmer, and Christy Burakovsky for a candid investor-to-investor conversation on how they’re allocating capital right now and what would make them change course. Pascal frames the dilemma many LPs are feeling: with risk-free rates near 5% and major macro signals flashing red (record debt loads, expensive public markets, and uncertainty around where rates settle), does it still make sense to allocate to interest-rate-sensitive commercial real estate? He shares how he’s thinking about portfolio construction with fresh liquidity and why he’s prioritizing stable income and downside protection before chasing upside. Adam and Christy offer counterweights: where fear can create opportunity, why liquidity matters, and how they’re approaching “safer” yield today (short-duration debt funds, notes, treasuries) while keeping dry powder for dislocated assets. The conversation also explores where each of them sees asymmetric opportunity—distressed commercial, non-performing loan strategies, medical office, assisted living tailwinds, and long-term fixed-rate debt structures that avoid the five-to-seven-year refinance trap. Key Takeaways 🞄 Why some LPs are pausing syndication allocations and leaning into cash/T-bills and what would change their mind 🞄 The “income-first” portfolio approach: build stable cash flow, then take higher-upside bets 🞄 Where investors are hunting opportunity: distress, NPLs, office dislocation, medical office, and long-term fixed-rate debt plays 🞄 Why HUD-style long-term amortizing debt can change the risk profile of a deal dramatically 🞄 Mezz vs. leveraged first-lien funds: the real differentiator is control of the underlying collateral 🞄 The underrated skill in 2026: staying liquid enough to act when the “no-brainer” window opens Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.