El PRECIO de BLINDAR EUROPA contra la MIGRACIÓN con José Bautista y Ngone Pouyé | T1E21

Migration Control: The Cost of Fortifying Europe with José Bautista and Ngone Ndiaye | S1E21 In this episode of Border Puzzle, we analyze the externalization of European borders with José Bautista, director of the Por Causa Foundation, and Ngone Pouyé, a journalist specializing in North Africa and the Mediterranean region within the same organization. Border management has become one of the great political and security dilemmas of our time. Faced with migratory pressure stemming from conflicts, economic crises, and regional destabilization, the European Union has largely opted to shift some control beyond its territory, relying on countries of origin and transit. In this episode, we address, from a calm and data-driven perspective, the objectives of this strategy, its security implications, and the extent to which it allows for a balance between controlling migration flows and protecting rights and ensuring long-term stability. It's a complex debate where effectiveness, responsibility, and geopolitics intersect, offering no easy solutions. 🧩Who benefits when Europe pays third countries to curb migration? 🧩What real room for negotiation do African states have with Brussels? 🧩Could this strategy generate more instability in the medium term? 🧩Is Europe also delegating its political and moral responsibility? Puzzle de Fronteras (Border Puzzle) is a podcast that discusses Spain's foreign policy on a different topic each week, hosted by Guillermo Bravo, journalist and radio broadcaster. You can find us on: Instagram: @puzledefronteras TikTok: @puzledefronteras Email: [email protected] Follow us and turn on notifications so you don't miss anything!