Demis Hassabis on Chatbots to AGI | EP 71

This week’s episode is a conversation with Demis Hassabis, the head of Google’s artificial intelligence division. We talk about Google’s latest A.I. models, Gemini and Gemma; the existential risks of artificial intelligence; his timelines for artificial general intelligence; and what he thinks the world will look like post-A.G.I. This interview was recorded on Wednesday. Since then, Google has temporarily suspended Gemini’s ability to generate images of humans, following criticism of images the chatbot generated of people of color in Nazi-era uniforms. Chapters 00:00:00 - Demis Highlights 00:00:32 - This week on Hard Fork 00:00:46 - Who is Demis Hassabis? 00:05:40 - Demis Interview 00:05:43 - Gemini/Gemma 00:13:37 - Open sourced VS closed Source 00:16:21 - How much personality should Chatbots have? 00:17:51 - Gemini hits pause on people pictures 00:19:26 - Benefits of being at Google 00:23:57 - Public’s negative opinion of A.I. 00:26:11 - How useful as a science tool? 00:28:29 - Curing diseases 00:29:24 - A.G.I. 00:34:04 - how should we prepare for AGI? 00:38:31 - whats your p(doom) ? 00:43:03 - will this just concentrate power more? 00:50:26 - most A.I.-proof job? 00:53:12 - Your personal post-A.G.I. plan? 00:54:55 - BONUS clip: chatGPT went KrAzy! Hard Fork is a weekly look into the future that's already here. Hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore stories from the bleeding edge of tech. Casey’s publication, Platformer: https://www.platformer.news/ FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork?is_f... Insta: Kevin Roose- https://www.instagram.com/kevinroose/... Casey Newton - https://www.instagram.com/crumbler/?h... Twitter (X): Kevin - https://x.com/kevinroose?s=20 Casey - https://x.com/CaseyNewton?s=20 Threads: Kevin - https://www.threads.net/@kevinroose Casey - https://www.threads.net/@crumbler Subscribe to the audio only podcast: Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/44fllCS... Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/7c7... Google - https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0... The New York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork