What Apple's OpenAI lawsuit is really about | Decoder

Today, we're talking with Hayden Field, The Verge’s senior AI reporter, about the major trade secrets lawsuit between Apple and OpenAI, and what this tells us about OpenAI’s future. Hayden has been covering OpenAI for years now, and she also just talked to a bunch of lawyers who specialize in intellectual property and trade secret law to get a sense of how serious this case is. The answer is not entirely positive for OpenAI. This legal battle could also affect OpenAI’s hardware plans, its forthcoming IPO, and its already-damaged reputation. #OpenAI #AI #Technology 0:00 - Intro 0:57 – Welcome to Decoder with Nilay Patel 2:29 – Interview begins: Hayden Field joins 3:06 – The trade secret lawsuit explained 5:14 – Trade secrets: the third IP battleground 7:57 – Tang Tan: OpenAI's chief hardware officer 9:53 – Why Jony Ive is absent from the lawsuit 14:23 – Consumer vs. enterprise strategy 16:48 – Skepticism on OpenAI's 5 hardware devices 21:17 – AI's current limits on natural language input 25:53 – Unauthorized data use across the AI industry 29:05 – AI industry's cliquish culture 34:03 – Why OpenAI can't afford this distraction 37:01 – Possible IPO delay 38:22 – Can OpenAI bridge the consumer AI gap? Follow Decoder on TikTok: @decoderpod Follow Decoder on Instagram: @decoderpod Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3ZWTlLs