Echolocator vs the Zen delay (lots of talk)

Primarily this is a discussion about the various merits and abilities of each delay and how they compare. There are plenty of audio examples but that's not the entire focus. For detailed sound demos please have a look at these videos: Echolocator delay on synth, drums, voice and shortwave (no talking)    • Echolocator delay on synth, drums, voice a...   Echolocator delay: Tape vs BBD plus weirdness (no talk)    • Echolocator delay: Tape vs BBD plus weirdn...   DB-01 reunited with the Zen delay - "It's not you it's me"    • DB-01 reunited with the Zen delay - "It's ...   Gentle OB-6 arps with a Zen delay    • Gentle OB-6 arps with a Zen delay   Glad you're still with me :) Although this video runs almost half an hour it feels like I was still skating on the surface. I avoided what I thought were completely obvious things or multiple sound comparisons of particular details. Even so a few areas I never got to include winding the delays all the way down and looking at various flanging and chorus effects, and maybe this deserves its own video? Likewise the Echolocator never got to its dirty mode or the alternate filter placement (although I do have no-talk videos which cover these). Nor did I play with the time parameters, long fripperish things, or drums. Ah well, so many wondrous sounds are waiting in the ether eager to be released. I'm trying. And of course I never get to any conclusion about which delay is 'best' but surely you didn't think that was ever going to happen? Instead we only get to that forum advice favorite of "use both". 0:00 Basic specs 0:38 Alternative delays 1:57 Strymon Timeline 2:58 Ergonomics 4:30 More specs 4:58 Delay time 5:49 MIDI 7:05 - Audio begins! -- 9:04 Both playing 9:44 Zen as a crunchy filter 12:00 Echolocator basic twiddle 13:10 Echolocator modulation 15:24 Echolocator pitch shift 17:04 Echolocator freeze 18:45 Noise tones test 22:00 Pure tone test 26:25 Cats or dogs? Many thanks to my kind patrons who keep this channel ad-free My website: https://richarddehove.com/ My other channel "IntraCosmos" of long-play dark ambient textures:    / @intracosmos