Why A.I. Makes Mass Surveillance More Dangerous
Cindy Cohn has spent three decades fighting for online privacy and digital rights. "In the '90s, we didn’t anticipate that spying on everybody would become the number one business model of the internet," she said during Hard Fork's recent live event in San Francisco. Cohn is the former executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (E.F.F.) and the author of "Privacy's Defender: My Thirty-Year Fight Against Digital Surveillance." She spoke to Kevin Roose and Casey Newton, the hosts of Hard Fork, about the current state of mass surveillance, the disconnect between tech platforms and their users, and the risks of A.I. systems on privacy. She also explained why she's not done fighting. 0:00 Introducing Cindy Cohn 1:22 The ongoing fight for end-to-end encryption 3:10 E.F.F.’s shift to fighting Big Tech 6:10 How the ideologies of tech companies have evolved 9:23 The risks of A.I. on privacy 11:15 Why does A.I. make mass surveillance scarier? 14:19 Immigration and the surveillance state 15:40 Is privacy still a winnable fight? 18:16 The complexities of chatbot privilege 19:52 Why E.F.F. left X.com Hard Fork is a weekly look into the future that's already here. Hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore stories from the bleeding edge of tech. FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL TikTok: / hardfork Kevin Roose - / kevinroose Casey Newton - / crumbler Twitter (X): Kevin - https://x.com/kevinroose Casey - https://x.com/CaseyNewton Threads: Kevin - https://www.threads.net/@kevinroose Casey - https://www.threads.net/@crumbler Casey’s publication, Platformer: https://www.platformer.news/ Subscribe to Hard Fork! Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/44fllCS... Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/7c7... YouTube Music - • Hard Fork The New York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork “Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton. Produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones. We’re edited by Vjeran Pavic. Engineering by Chris Wood and original music by Dan Powell, Marion Lozano, Sophia Lanman and Rowan Niemisto. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love. Video production by Jake Nicol, Chris Schodt and Sawyer Roque. Podcast Art Direction by Benjamin Wilkerson Tousley. Podcast Art & Animations by Julian Hespenheide. Additional Motion graphics by Phil Robibero. Thumbnails by Julia Moburg and Tara Godvin. Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam and Dahlia Haddad.
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