50+ Flights Before Age 4 | Travel After Kids with Amanda Kellner Klein

You used to be the person who would book the flight without thinking twice. Then you had kids, and the part of you that loved to go somewhere got packed away with everything else, and you started to wonder if it was gone for good. Amanda Kellner Klein decided it wasn't. She's a brand partnerships exec, she writes about traveling after kids on her Substack, and her almost-four-year-old already has more than 50 flights to her name. She came on to talk about how you hold onto the parts of yourself that matter once the kids arrive, with all the real logistics, the trade-offs, and one airplane story you have to hear to believe. What You'll Learn → The travel muscle that makes a trip with a four-year-old feel easy, and why the only way to build it is to go when it's still hard → The comeback to "they won't even remember it" that ends the argument for good → The filter Amanda uses to decide whether a trip actually happens, the one most people skip so "someday" never comes → The packing system that means nobody ever asks "who has the diapers" mid-flight → Why lowering your expectations is the real secret to a good trip with kids, not a consolation prize → The night-flight advice everyone repeats that Amanda says is mostly wrong → The airplane bathroom story that made everyone in this episode swear off something for life The trip that keeps getting pushed Travel is the perfect example of the thing that matters to you but never feels urgent, so it sits on "someday" for years. The fix is the same one Amanda lives by. You get it out of your head and into one system you actually use, so the important things stop losing to the urgent ones. I made a free 15-minute training that walks you through how to build it. Watch here → https://go.alexpayetta.com/training If you already know you want it, go straight to CEO Mode here → https://go.alexpayetta.com/ceomode-po... Lorissa's List Lorissa's curated list of the products, services, and providers actually worth your time, all vetted to a higher standard so you can skip the search. 👉 https://lorissaviolet.com Connect With Us Lorissa Violet https://lorissaviolet.com |   / lorissaviolet   Alex Payetta https://alexpayetta.com |   / alexpayetta   Amanda Kellner Klein https://carryon.substack.com |   / amandakellnerklein   Mentioned in This Episode SlumberPod and SlumberTot inflatable bed — the road-sleep setup they both swear by Hatch — the sound and light machine she brings on road trips so the routine travels Silver Cross Jet and the YoYo — the travel strollers worth knowing, including the one European gate agents recognize as cabin-safe Coterie diapers — the sensitive-skin brand worth packing from home The Years Are Short spreadsheet — the age-and-school-year map Amanda adapted to plan travel Timestamps 0:00 Meet Amanda, mom of two and "travel after kids" writer 2:36 Her first solo trip with her almost-four-year-old 3:57 Why bed-sharing on the road cured her of bed-sharing 8:45 The Spain trip that proved this one would be easy 12:02 Why it gets exponentially easier when you go while it's hard 15:15 The magic of watching your kids experience the world 16:07 "They won't even remember it" and the rebuttals that end it 20:15 How they budget for travel every year 21:52 Why low expectations are the real secret 26:36 Protecting naps on the road 27:39 Airbnb vs hotel, and the washer-dryer nobody thinks about 31:59 Diapers, bring your own or buy there 35:58 The packing system, one kid, one bag, never swap 40:45 Why packing for the plane matters more than packing for the trip 45:49 The airplane bathroom story you have to hear 53:49 TSA, frozen breast milk, and the hacks most parents miss 56:32 Must-have products, starting with the SlumberPod 58:06 Travel strollers, and the Bugaboo Butterfly spreadsheet 63:02 The France bus debacle 64:53 Travel as the important-but-not-urgent thing, and the Years Are Short spreadsheet 68:36 Road trips and day trips as the reset 71:22 Best destinations, and the worst age to visit a city 73:40 The solo trip with the baby 75:27 Listener question, Tuscany diapers and villa cribs 78:00 Where to find Amanda