"אין ימין ושמאל, יש פופוליסטים פשיסטים ודמוקרטים ליברלים" - רן הר-נבו בריאיון על הבחירות הקרובות

Is Israel becoming the new Hungary? Ran Har-Nevo, a high-tech entrepreneur who built a $400 million digital empire and founder of Yalla Tikva, arrives in a new episode of the podcast with a dramatic warning: We are witnessing a gradual regime change taking place before our eyes. In an in-depth conversation with Guy Katzovich, Har-Nevo reveals the exact playbook that Viktor Orbán used to destroy Hungarian democracy - and explains how exactly the same scenario is now playing out in Israel. From taking over the media and the judicial system, to political appointments in security agencies, to changing the electoral system. "The left-right dichotomy is no longer relevant," he declares. "The struggle is between liberal democracy and fascist populism." Har-Nevo describes how Hungary collapsed economically, lost 6% of its population in a massive brain drain, and became a country where the rule of loyalty replaced the rule of excellence. Are the upcoming elections really our "last dance"? Why does he think Katzovic should refuse to interview certain figures? How can independent media fight the new propaganda machines? And what is the connection between the crisis that began even before October 7 and the great trauma that is befalling the country? A moving conversation about the future of Israeli democracy, with one of the people who knows the digital and media world best - and who is not afraid to tell the hard truth. The establishment of Yalla Tikva as a response to a media vacuum - 0:00 Coup d'état in Israel and a comparison to Hungary - 2:15 What Yalla Tikva believes - Liberal democracy in danger - 2:20 The first post-Zionist government in Israel - 2:45 Three years of trauma - from the coup d'état to October 7 - 3:40 The propaganda machines and the need for a media counter - 4:50 The Hungarian playbook - How Viktor Orbán took over the country - 6:00 Illiberal democracy and loyalty rule - 8:00 Taking control of the centers of power - media, police and the judicial system - 10:00 Political appointments in the security services - Danny Levy and the head of the Shin Bet - 11:00 Gerrymandering and changing the electoral system - 14:00 The Hungarian miracle - How Peter Magyar defeated Orbán - 15:00 Israel as a test case - Loyalty rule is already here - 19:40 Brain drain - the comparison to Turkey and Hungary - 21:00 The new dichotomy - not right and left but fascism versus democracy - 24:00 Learning from the world - Arthur Finkelstein and the import of ideas - 28:00 What is true - building a liberal democratic tent - 31:00 Defining the boundaries of legitimacy - who does not enter the tent - 34:00 Agents of obscurity and the need to decide - 36:40 October 7 and the fear of a political settlement - 43:00 Destined versus the ability to change reality - 45:00 The elections as a historical crossroads - the last dance - 47:40