After 50 Years Studying the Human Psyche, He Says Most of Us Are Living the Wrong Life
James Hollis is a Jungian psychoanalyst, the author of 17 books on the self, relationships and meaning, and at 86 years old he is still practising, still writing and still working on himself. He rarely gives interviews. He said yes to this one because it felt like a meaningful conversation. In this conversation, James reveals what five decades of sitting with people's most private suffering taught him about why so many of us are living someone else's life, and what it actually costs to find your own. He covers: Why your psyche will revolt if you ignore it long enough, and what that looks like when it does The one question that changes everything. what is this in service to inside of you? Why the first half of life is, in his words, a big unavoidable mistake What the two gremlins at the foot of your bed are called and how they ruin your life Why pursuing happiness is the wrong goal entirely What Charles Bukowski understood about meaning that most people miss Why the greatest burden a child carries is the unlived life of the parent The Emily Dickinson line from 1863 that gave him his compass His personal motto. shut up, suit up, show up. and why he needed it on the morning of this interview What he would say to himself at ten years old if he could Why he still grieves the life his parents were never allowed to live What life actually is, in one sentence from Jung This is not a therapy session. It is a conversation with a man who has spent a lifetime asking the hardest question there is. Is this your life, or someone else's? James Hollis is the author of Under Saturn's Shadow, The Eden Project, Swamplands of the Soul, and Living Between Worlds, among many others. ☕ Enjoyed this conversation? Support the channel: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/hello9L Let me know in the comments: Is there a moment you realised you were living someone else's story, and what did you do about it? ⏱ TIMESTAMPS [00:00:00] Intro [00:00:08] Why He Said Yes. What a Meaningful Conversation Actually Means [00:01:37] The Moment That Made Him. A Depression at 35 and Dante's Dark Wood [00:02:26] When the Psyche Revolts. The People in the Basement Were Not Happy [00:04:22] The Foundation of Every Relationship. Your Relationship With Yourself [00:05:58] Still Practising at 86. What That Tells You About the Work [00:06:59] Jung's Warning. The Greatest Burden a Child Carries [00:08:08] The Hour a Day That Changes Everything [00:12:37] What We Ignore Inwardly Comes to Us Outwardly [00:14:17] Every Day We Get Unraveled. 100% of His Books Written at Night [00:14:41] Amateurs Wait for Inspiration. The Chuck Close Lesson [00:16:22] The Most Important Question You Can Ask Yourself. Really. [00:17:00] The Programmed Engines Running Your Life Without You Knowing [00:19:31] His Mother Was an Orphan. His Father Was Pulled From School at 13. [00:19:58] He Wanted to Be a Physician. He Built Tractors Instead. [00:20:37] Climbing Trees Looking for Airplanes. The Child Who Wanted More. [00:22:26] I Grieve the Life My Parents Were Never Allowed to Live [00:23:03] First Half of Life vs Second Half. Two Completely Different Questions [00:24:05] Permission and Personal Authority. The Two Things You Must Recover [00:25:31] The Emptiness Syndrome. What COVID Revealed About Autopilot Living [00:29:49] A Greater Mindfulness Around Where Your Decisions Are Coming From [00:30:11] Gray Divorces. What Happens When the Children Leave and Strangers Remain [00:31:11] Why the First Half of Life Is a Big Unavoidable Mistake [00:32:22] Start With the Patterns. That Is Where the Truth Lives [00:33:26] The Past Is Not Dead. It Is Not Even Past. Faulkner on the Unconscious. [00:34:22] Psyche Had Another Opinion and Made Itself Pretty Clear [00:37:24] Find What You Love and Let It Kill You. The Bukowski Paradox [00:39:58] The Difference Between a Job and a Vocation [00:40:38] Stop Pursuing Happiness. Pursue This Instead. [00:42:22] What He Would Say to Himself at 10 Years Old [00:45:21] The Emily Dickinson Compass. How to Find True North in Your Own Life [00:46:32] Which Path Enlarges You and Which Diminishes You? [00:47:44] The Two Gremlins at the Foot of Your Bed [00:49:37] If This Is Not Your Life, Whose Life Is It? [00:52:12] Shut Up. Suit Up. Show Up. His Motto and Why He Needed It Today. [00:53:31] Accept That You Are Accepted. Paul Tillich on Grace [00:54:31] Life Is a Short Pause Between Two Great Mysteries [00:55:51] The Shadow. What Hamlet Understood About the Unconscious [00:58:23] If Your Life Had a Message So Far, What Would It Be? [00:59:09] The Claim of the Heart and the Soul [01:00:22] A Card-Carrying Introvert on Why He Still Shows Up [01:01:13] Life Is Very Simple and Very Difficult. His Final Words #JungianPsychology #JamesHollis #Jung #Meaning #Psychology #Wisdom #Podcast #RewindYourself #PersonalDevelopment #Philosophy #Mindset #SelfAwareness #UnlivedLife #Depth #Psychoanalysis #LifeLessons #Consciousness #Shadow #Vocation #Authenticity

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