Do Coaches Need Coaches? (The Honest Answer)

The most valuable thing a coach gives you isn't a program, a plan, or even expertise. It's a view from outside your own experience — the one thing you can't generate no matter how self-aware you are. In this episode, Ben Bergeron and Patrick Cummings answer Chase Club member David's question about whether coaches need coaches — and end up in a much richer conversation about what mentorship actually requires from both sides of the relationship. You'll learn why no mentor says yes without a reason (and why offering to work for free still isn't enough), how Ben has built three very different mentorship relationships each running on a completely different value exchange, and what you have to bring as the mentee: curiosity, vulnerability, and patience. Whether you have a coach you pay, a friend you trade expertise with, or a book you're finally reading the right way — the goal is always the same: to see what you can't see from inside your own life. Get the full Listener's Guide: https://www.chasingexcellence.email/p... Join the Chase Club: https://chasingexcellence.substack.com/ New to Chasing Excellence? Start here: https://www.chasingexcellence.email/p... --- ABOUT CHASING EXCELLENCE Chasing Excellence is for people who already know that health, happiness, and living with their heart on fire is the good life — but who struggle against the slow drift of modern life anyway. We explore the five factors of health — how we eat, move, think, connect, and rest — and what it takes to crowd out the drift. New episodes every Monday and Thursday.