The future of code is exciting and terrifying | The Vergecast

A new era of software development is upon us. Career coders are no longer writing code, but rather managing teams of agents that do the work on their behalf. You can Claude Code your way through seemingly just about any problem. So what does that mean for the software we use, and the people who make it? Paul Ford, a writer and technologist who both writes about code and manages a team of coders, joins the show to explain his somewhat conflicted excitement about the new crop of AI tools, and his worries about what they’ll do to the world. After that, The Verge’s Dominic Preston helps answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email [email protected]!) about the differences between the US phone market and the global phone market, and whether US buyers are missing anything important. 00:00 Intro 03:42 Paul Ford Times Op-Ed Backlash 05:17 Claude Code Breakthrough 10:05 Rebuilding a Personal Web 18:22 Compilers 23:30 Guitar Pedal Vibe Coding 29:54 Blogging Returns on Ftrain 34:40 A Bot-Filled New Internet 36:27 Side Projects 37:06 Web Discovery Is Dead 38:55 AI Promise And Backlash 44:34 Hotline Question 47:46 Camera Arms Race 55:38 Why US Lags Cameras 01:01:42 Walled Garden Hacks 01:05:03 Wrap Version History now has its own channel! Make sure to subscribe here for new episodes: https://bit.ly/4rRS30p Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLv Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc Subscribe to The Verge: https://bit.ly/3FT6n5S Subscribe to The Vergecast on YouTube, new episodes on Tuesday and Friday: https://bit.ly/3I6nJtz If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3ZWTlLs