What Is Utah Doing That Every Other State Should Be with Nic Dunn

Many states run their welfare programs and workforce programs like two separate businesses that never talk to each other. Families in poverty have to navigate multiple agencies, multiple buildings, and mountains of paperwork just to get help — let alone get back on their feet. Utah decided to do something different. This episode, I'm joined by Nic Dunn, Vice President of Strategy and Senior Fellow at the Sutherland Institute, one of Utah's most influential think tanks, and one of the country's sharpest thinkers on poverty, upward mobility, and what it actually looks like when policy works. Learn more about Nic Dunn and the Sutherland Institute here: https://sutherlandinstitute.org/defen... https://sutherlandinstitute.org/autho...