‘I'm sick of the system’ – Lionel Shriver on six months of Trump
Deputy US editor Kate Andrews is joined by author and Spectator columnist Lionel Shriver to assess Donald Trump’s turbulent second term. They discuss the rise of socialism in New York, why fairness is warping immigration policy, and whether Trump’s obsession with lawfare and vengeance is undoing his own presidency. // CHAPTERS 00:00 – Introduction 01:13 – The cult of fairness and equality 02:40 – Trump’s second term: a chaotic start 05:08 – Immigration and border control under Trump 07:01 – Trump’s lawfare and vendettas 10:02 – The Epstein files and MAGA’s conspiracies 13:19 – Trump’s immigration policy: tough but fair? 16:26 – Do we base immigration on compassion or law? 19:49 – Should long-term illegal migrants be allowed to stay? 24:25 – Why Lionel wants to scrap asylum completely 29:00 – Trump’s trade chaos and ‘Liberation Day’ 32:37 – How the tariffs damaged America’s reputation // SUBSCRIBE TO THE SPECTATOR Get 12 issues for £12, plus a free £20 John Lewis/Waitrose voucher https://www.spectator.co.uk/tvoffer // FREE PODCASTS FROM THE SPECTATOR Hear more from The Spectator's journalists on their podcasts, covering everything from the politics of the UK, US and China, to religion, literature, lifestyle and more. https://www.spectator.co.uk/podcasts/ // FOLLOW US / spectator / officialspectator / the-spectator / spectator1828 / thespectatormagazine
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