Пантеон, якого немає: кладовище як дзеркало національної пам'яті та гідності

Why do we Ukrainians still not have our own national pantheon? How do the most famous cemeteries — from Lychakiv to Baikovo — reflect cultural memory, hero veneration, and the ability to remember outstanding compatriots? How does our attitude to burial places differ from the European experience and what does this say about the nation? In the new episode of the podcast "Done" Anna Nikolaeva discussed with cultural expert Natalia Pirogova: 🖍️ Why is visiting necropolises not about fear, but about identity and dignity? 🖍️ Where and why should we look for the graves of Ukrainian figures — from princes to independence fighters of the 20th century? 🖍️ What are the main problems of preserving memory and the culture of veneration? 🖍️ How does the experience of Poland, France, or Georgia help us understand our place of memory? 🖍️ How is the "unknown soldier" dangerous? 🖍️ Does Ukraine need a real national pantheon and how can citizens themselves participate in preserving history? This is a frank conversation about memory and remembrance, neglect and oblivion, about symbols that shape the future through respect for the past and build a bridge to understanding the depths of our identity. Turn on the episode to reflect together: what is memory for each of us and how can we preserve it together? Support our work: Monobank: https://send.monobank.ua/jar/7pyPH4wLkY Baza by Mono https://base.monobank.ua/4pPtMMTyEF5SaW Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/porobleno Patreon:   / porobleno   Timecodes 00:00 Teaser 00:49 Introducing the guest and the topic 02:31 Why it is important to visit cemeteries 04:42 Where is the Ukrainian pantheon? Why is it still missing 07:21 What is wrong with the Baykovo cemetery? 10:21 Examples of other initiatives that restore memory 11:26 The problem of the neglected state of cemeteries 13:20 Vandalism and neglect, private and public 16:44 The example of the Poles 18:13 Who and how could be reburied in Ukraine 21:06 Burials of the military, what the memorials of the unknown soldier are really about 25:55 Alyada Assman's concept: the value of "bury and honor" 29:18 How each of us can change this The "Porobleno" team: Anna Nikolaeva - ethnologist, candidate of historical sciences Website - https://annanikolaieva.com.ua/ Instagram - https://cutt.ly/h7AQhsu Facebook - https://cutt.ly/b7AQZ2Y Order Anna Nikolaeva's book "The System of Symbolic Protection in the Everyday Life of Ukrainians Polissya, the End of the 19th Century - the Beginning XXI century”: https://annanikolaieva.com.ua Order Anna Nikolaeva's book "And now there is no one to ask... How to research the history of one's own kind?" https://laboratory.ua/products/a-tepe... Daria Antsybor - folklorist, anthropologist, candidate of philological sciences, author of the Telegram channel "Mushrooms, graves and dissertations" - https://t.me/culturaldeprivation Instagram - https://cutt.ly/p7AWvJS Facebook - https://cutt.ly/o7AWA2a Order Darya Antsybor's book "Dreadlocks, Battles and Styles": https://laboratory.ua/products/dredy-... Order Darya Antsybor's book "Under the pillow or under the Christmas tree? Anthropological study of holidays" https://laboratory.ua/products/pid-po... Filming and editing: Dmytro Koshelyuk Instagram - https://cutt.ly/t7AWXxj Facebook - https://cutt.ly/d7AW2EX For letters - [email protected] Thanks to Darya Dobriyan and the museum "Spiritual Treasures of Ukraine" for their hospitality. The cover design uses a photo of the crematorium's farewell hall at the Baykovo Cemetery. Subscribe to us: YouTube    / @poroblenopodcast   Facebook   / poroblenopodcast   Instagram   / porobleno.podcast   TikTok   / porobleno.podcast   Telegram https://t.me/poroblenopodcast Listen on podcast platforms: Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/3xFXICG... Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... MEGOGO Podcasts https://megogo.page.link/BAw8EE5KBt4V... ABUK app https://abuk.com.ua/catalog/books/3914 CastBox https://castbox.fm/channel/id5396946?... RSS feed - https://anchor.fm/s/defe4a3c/podcast/rss