AHOK BLAK BLAKAN‼️NADIEM GAK SALAH. INI ADA OKNUM YANG BEKING.

A heated podcast between Denny Sumargo and Basuki Tjahaja Purnama discusses the controversy surrounding the Nadiem Makarim case, which is currently being widely discussed by the public. In this tense yet relaxed conversation, Ahok frankly admitted that if he were in Nadiem's ​​position, he would likely take the same steps to implement a system he deems more effective. Ahok also highlighted how political pressure, bureaucracy, and the interests of various parties often make major policies controversial. Denny Sumargo sought to delve deeper into Ahok's perspectives on courageous decision-making, the risks of public office, and the culture of seeking scapegoats when problems arise. This podcast presents a sharp, critical, and perspective-filled discussion on leadership, courageous decision-making, and the harsh realities of politics and government in Indonesia. #ahok #ahokterbaru #nadiemmakarim #podcastahok #politikindonesia #podcastpolitik #exclusiveinterview