LonerBox confronts an old friend in INSANE debate... Ft. Hutch & Mutahar

Lonerbox addresses accusations of being a paid propagandist, questioning whether an invitation to Israel automatically implies bias. He also touches on Ethan Klein and news surrounding the situation. Patreon:   / lonerbox   Twitter:   / boxloner   Twitch:   / lonerbox​   Discord:   / discord   Reddit:   / lonerbox   Research notes: https://publish.obsidian.md/lonerbox Become a Member:    / @lonerboxlive   Donate Directly to Loner: https://paypal.me/lonerbox Edited by ​⁠​⁠​⁠‪@StardustIRL‬ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 01:38 - "Apparently, Hutch and Vadim are fighting..." 02:15 - Discussing Hila's tattoo: Vadim forgets the context of the clip he's showing Hutch. Then, he remembers. 05:30 - Hila posted a picture of her tattoo, which was a Star of David. "But it's blue," Vadim says. 08:54 - Lonerbox points out the double standard that Vadim is practicing. "This guy associates with people who do this all the time, but worse." 14:31 - Hutch says, "You want to contextualize the people that are harassing him, but you don't want to get in any kind of nuance whatsoever with the way he's reacting." 15:10 - "Why is it hard for me to get you to say that it's fully unhinged, to accuse him and his wife of wanting Palestinian kids to die?" asks Hutch. 19:23 - Hutch and Vadim get into it over the CPS call on Ethan Klein's kids: "Do you think it was, coincidence that after a certain creator that I won't even name and Denims covered this shit on their socials, that immediately after someone called CPS on them?" 28:41 - Hutch is trying to talk Vadim down off of the ledge he's on. Vadim DENIES he is on ANY LEDGE! 29:21 - Hutch and Vadim discuss the human skulls that were sent to Ethan Klein's house. 37:02 - Vadim brings up Taylor Lorenz in discussion with Hutch. Did Taylor Lorenz lie about Ethan Klein? 40:53 - Lonerbox on who Ethan Klein associates with - " it's not even a contest with how much is tolerated Vadim's side versus on the Ethan H3 side." 53:17 - Vadim understands this. He made this argument with Lauren Southern with the Christchurch shooting - "She was part of an ecosystem." 58:32 - Hasan Piker's irresponsible rhetoric and claims 1:07:14 - Hutch asks Vadim what he thinks about Hasan Piker accusing Lonerbox of being a paid Hasbara propagandist... 1:09:06 - "He's lying. He's lying." says Lonerbox, of Vadim 1:12:14 - Lonerbox joins the call with Vadim and Hutch, to defend himself. 1:12:23 - Lonerbox and Vadim discuss Yishai Fletcher. Lonerbox confronts Vadim. "You know this, we've spoken about it..." 1:17:23 - Louis Theroux isn't particularly confrontational with his subjects. If a subject took his interview and put it on their channel, without his commentary, does that mean Louis Theroux did propaganda for them? 1:19:58 - "We both know that I know this conflict better than you do," says Lonerbox to Vadim. 1:21:35 - "We both agree that he was angry with my content. With the way that I covered that content. He was angry with my commentary on that interaction." 1:22:17 - Lonerbox confronts Vadim on the "Propaganda Trip" accusations. 1:23:25 - "Thank you for confirming that you do not know absolute [_] about this country you have been talking about for the last 20 months." 1:28:36 - "When have I ever lied to you, Vadim?" 1:34:25 - Lonerbox exits the call, and goes back to watching Hutch and Vadim have their conversation. 1:35:34 - Vadim says to Hutch, "You know what - Bring Mutahar in here if you want." 1:36:13 - Mutahar wants to ask Vadim questions about the harassment Ethan Klein has been receiving. 1:38:45 - Vadim says that Ethan Klein was putting stuff out that was Islamophobic. Mutahar starts pushing Vadim on exactly what. 1:39:44 - Vadim brings up the "From The River to The Sea" phrase. 1:42:45 - Mutahar asks Vadim, where does the chant originate from? 1:43:45 - Vadim brings up Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter. Mutahar responds, "That's not even equivalent at all." 1:46:53 - Lonerbox realizes - "He doesn't know what he wants!" 1:49:18 - Vadim asks Hutch to TERMINATE MUTAHAR! 1:50:16 - LONERBOX SOYFACE 1:52:59 - "Do you think I would have a better time talking to you or a brick wall?" 1:59:20 - Hutch, Mutahar, and Lonerbox have a group call. 1:59:43 - Lonerbox elaborates on "From The River to The Sea" phrase, the historical context of whether one state can work, etc. 2:08:17 - Mutahar talks about the real life repercussions of being labeled "pro-genocide" by Noah Samsen and his sphere online 2:14:21 - Looking to the future in the region 2:21:19 - "...You have like probably one of the most popular social movements in the world since BLM, and they've achieved absolutely nothing..." 2:22:42 - Noah Samsen's reaction to the shooting #hutch #ethanklein #lonerbox #mutahar