ฟริเกตจีน vs อินเดีย: 4,000 ตันในงบไทย ซื้อเจ้าไหนดี?

If Thailand has a budget of around 35 billion baht for two new frigates, and the general requirement is "a ship around 4,000 tons that's within reach in the real world," the next question is... Should we look to China or India? This clip is another installment in the frigate series of the 365 Days of Identity Project. Previously, we discussed the Korean line, including the DW-3000F, following on from HTMS Bhumibol and various HDF models. We also discussed the European line, including the Arrowhead 140, Avante 2200, and MEKO A-200. This time, Mik invites everyone to turn the compass back to Asia. We focus on two countries with their own warship industries and have begun exporting: China and India. In this clip, we'll discuss three main ship types: • Type 054A / 054A(P) – a multi-role frigate, approximately 4,000–4,200 tons, the flagship of the Chinese Navy. Four versions have already been exported to Pakistan. • Talwar / Project 11356 – Approximately 4,000-ton frigates, Russian design used by India and co-built at Goa Shipyard. • Nilgiri / Project 17A – Fully Indian-designed frigates, displacing approximately 6,700 tons, competing in the same league as top-of-the-line European frigates in terms of size and price. Mick will explain in layman's terms, even if you're not a naval officer. He'll start with the big picture of Thailand's budget and the old Chao Phraya-Naresuan fleet, explaining why Thailand can't avoid considering "remodeling" some of its frigates, and then go into more detail about each type: • How much "good" does the Type 054A offer for a budget of $300-350 million per ship? Why is the Talwar considered a cost-effective 4,000-ton frigate option? • Although the Talwar is similar in size, its actual status as "Russian ships used by India" has increased its estimated cost to around $450–550 million per ship, with a joint construction deal in India. • ​​Why has the Nilgiri jumped to a global price of 6,000–7,000 tons? The average cost per ship from the Project 17A program is around $750–800 million, or around 27–28 billion baht per ship, far exceeding the ceiling for Thai frigates. In the middle of the clip, there is a comparison table of specifications and a ROM price framework, showing side-by-side comparisons of displacement, length, fleet role, export/ToT status, and a rough price framework per ship, both in dollars and converted to baht. To reiterate, the figures in this clip are ROM (Rough Order of Magnitude) figures used to assess the "budget scale" and not the official price at the actual negotiating table. The actual figure could be significantly higher or lower, depending on the specifications ordered by Thailand and the weapons systems installed. and contract conditions for each country. At the end of the clip, Mik will discuss ToT – Transfer of Technology: • How does China implement ToT in its deals with Pakistan and Thai submarines? • Why does China's style tend to be "Use our design, we'll help build, assemble, and repair"? • This is different from Europe, which often sells ship designs and licenses for self-construction and further development. • India is using the Nilgiri project as a tool to build its own industry rather than focusing primarily on exports. Finally, Mik will pose a question to everyone: If you were me, would you choose the 4,000-ton Chinese frigate, which has proven itself in operations and the export market? Or would you choose the larger and more expensive Indian frigate of its own design? Or would you still consider other options besides these two countries? Feel free to share your views in the comments. Mik reads every comment, as always. If you like this content analyzing warships, defense budgets, and regional military deals, please like, share, and subscribe to the channel so you don't miss future episodes of the 365 Days of Identity Building project. We still have toys from many countries to explore! 🙌 B-roll video credits • Tamal - Ship's Capabilities - Indian Navy • Tamal – Sarvada Sarvatra Vijaya - Indian Navy • Tamal - Forged for Power Built for Precision. ⚓️🇮🇳 - Coming Soon... - Indian Navy • Chinese Sea Dragon's Might Unveiling the Type 054A Frigate - The Wardroom • “Fire!” Nanhai Monghai Sea Landing, Bombing Ship, Fire-Changing Ship - Type-054A Guided Missile Destroyer - PLA Navy - ☆WORLDMILITARY☆ • PNS TUGHRIL, the state-of-the-art Frigate inducted in the #PakistanNavy fleet - Pakistan Navy • INS Udaygiri Teaser - Indian Navy • Udaygiri - Construction Journey - Indian Navy • INS Himgiri Teaser - Indian Navy • China's Multipurpose FFG - U.S. Naval Institute