197. The PM Scale Paradox: Rodolfo Cristovão Product Director and Mike Yeardley, VP at Feedzai

The conversation delves into the evolution of product scaling, the pivot to financial institutions, and the transformation of Feedzai. It also explores the learning curve for product managers, the evolution of PMs at Feedzai, the art of saying no, and the core value of Feedzai. The conversation covers topics such as value detection, AI and machine learning in fraud detection, limitations and future of AI in fraud detection, sustainability and evolution of the business model, product as an intelligence engine, data-led product development, agentive AI, cloud infrastructure, transition to cloud infrastructure, transaction risk assessment, emerging risks and challenges in fraud detection, and the role of product managers in fraud detection. Takeaways Product scaling through industry pivot Evolution of product management from startup to scale Value Detection AI and Machine Learning Cloud Infrastructure Fraud Detection Product Management Data Intelligence Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Product Scaling 07:14 Evolution of Feedzai 13:03 The Evolution of PMs at Feedzai 26:39 Saying No and Decision Framework 36:30 Core Value of Feedzai 44:29 Cloud Infrastructure and Data Residency 50:26 Transition to Cloud Infrastructure 56:08 Emerging Risks and Challenges in Fraud Detection