Подкаст №20. Реми Майснер

Blogger, publicist, and popularizer of good literature, Remi Meisner, visited our studio. With him, we explored: — Why the White movement failed to lead Russia down the "third path"; — How self-esteem is reconciled with a sense of rank; — Is historical reconciliation between the Whites and the workers possible? We also discussed how Mr. Denikin's ideas from his declaration on the labor question have reached our time, how working people thought about these ideas at the time, and what they would say today. Naturally, we couldn't do without the wonderful poems of Nikolai Alekseevich Nekrasov and Demyan Bedny, recited by our guest. Listen on Telegram - https://t.me/worksight/923 Listen on Yandex.Music - https://music.yandex.com/album/366390... Listen on RuTube - https://rutube.ru/video/fc7ab06a1d853... 00:00 Greeting 01:04 What will the conversation be about? 02:28 A few words about the "whites" 03:27 The first contradiction found: "An educated person without a sense of dignity" 04:43 A few words about Dostoevsky and "The Brothers Karamazov" 05:50 Nekrasov on a lost breed of people, "Hey, Ivan" 09:56 What Nekrasov reveals 10:55 The labor question 13:15 Denikin's declaration on the labor question of 1919 15:32 "1. Restoration of the legal rights of the owners of factory and plant enterprises and at the same time ensuring the protection of the working class's professional interests" 16:09 "2. Establishment of state control over production in the interests of the national economy" 22:04 "3. Increase in labor productivity by all means" 22:50 "4. Establishment of an 8-hour workday in factory and plant enterprises" 25:27 "5. Reconciling the Interests of Employer and Worker 30:19 "6. Further Development of Workers' Insurance" 34:44 "7. Organizing Workers' Representation in Connection with the Normal Development of Trade Societies and Unions" 36:23 How to Overcome a Situation in Which Workers Have No Time for Anything? 39:34 "I'm Not a Millionaire Yet" 41:31 The Conscious Person and the Irresponsible Person 42:58 "8. Reliable Health Protection for Workers, Protection of Female and Child Labor, Establishment of Sanitary Inspection in Factories, Plants, and Workshops. Improving Housing and Other Living Conditions for the Working Class" 44:41 What Are They Promising Now in Terms of Living Conditions? 48:34 The rise of workers' education and the rise of bourgeois thought 49:34 An example from "One-Story America" ​​in a conversation with Ford 51:40 The main contradiction that cannot be overcome 53:01 The scheme: priest + policeman + tsar. Vladimir Mayakovsky - "On Patriarch Tikhon" 57:04 Wishes for the listeners 58:09 "9. All possible assistance in restoring enterprises and creating new ones in order to end unemployment, as well as taking other measures to achieve the same goal" 59:27 What did other representatives of the White movement propose? 1:00:20 Demyan Bedny - "It's Time" 1:05:56 The program as it is 1:08:00 Why is that? The minority demands gratitude, while the majority is forced to be grateful for work, for life, for opportunities. 1:10:58 Kuban residents' hesitations between the Whites 1:11:45 Another contradiction: petty-bourgeois thinking 1:15:37 Wrangel's leftist "Plan for resolving the land issue" 1:18:38 What did the White Guards base everything on? 1:19:59 Why hasn't the White idea completely disappeared from the world stage? 1:22:21 Is this idea doomed? 1:23:07 Historical rhyme and differences 1:24:41 Where to go? 1:27:05 A Vision Neither Red nor White 1:28:30 A Class That Doesn't Understand Itself 1:31:53 The Core of the Oppressor Movement 1:33:14 The Struggle of Poles Today 1:34:29 Armor and Sword: Understand Your Interests, Formulate Understanding, Organize 1:35:55 ​​Important Paths to Self-Development in Communication: Psychology, Logic, Rhetoric 1:38:13 Another Important Thing: Environment 1:39:58 A Soft Word or Red Calico? 1:41:20 The Classical Principle 1:41:50 Conflicting Ideas We Encounter in the Information Space Today 1:43:38 The Quality of the Propaganda We Consume 1:44:50 About the "Middle" Class 1:46:40 Who Are We Really?! 1:47:05 Conclusion