Ezra Klein on the Abundance Agenda | Conversations with Tyler

What happens when a liberal thinker shifts his attention from polarization to economic abundance? Ezra Klein’s new book with Derek Thompson, Abundance, argues for an agenda of increased housing, infrastructure, clean energy, and innovation. But does abundance clash with polarization—or offer a way through it? In this conversation, Ezra and Tyler discuss how the abundance agenda interacts with political polarization, whether it's is an elite-driven movement, where Ezra favors NIMBYism, the geographic distribution of US cities, an abundance-driven approach to health care, what to do about fertility decline, how the U.S. federal government might prepare for AGI, whether mass layoffs in government are justified, Ezra's recommended travel destinations, and more. Recorded March 7th, 2025 Transcript and links: https://conversationswithtyler.com/ep... Stay connected: Follow us on X, IG, and Facebook: @cowenconvos   / cowenconvos     / cowenconvos     / cowenconvos   Join us on Discord:   / discord   https://conversationswithtyler.com https://mercatus.org Photo Credit: (c) Lucas Foglia Timestamps 00:00:00 - On the abundance agenda 00:03:20 - On the abundance agenda as an elite movement 00:07:16 - On dark abundance 00:17:11 - On an abundance view of health care 00:29:06 - On abundant births 00:40:58 - On state capacity 00:46:33 - On prepping the federal government for AGI 01:05:57 - On three places to travel