Catholic Apologist Says Slavery Is Okay In Debate About Jesus' Resurrection

Skip to 01:23:00 - if you just want to see the slavery bit After a few months off podcasting, I came back with one of the wildest conversations I’ve had with a Catholic apologist. This is my third debate with Noah from @Jesus.andwhatnot and we start in a pretty normal place: the historicity of Jesus, what (if anything) we can know from the sources, how reliable the Gospels are, and whether claims like crucifixion and resurrection can be treated like other ancient historical questions. Then the conversation takes a sharp turn into epistemology—faith vs. history, “first principles,” and whether the Catholic Church can be treated as an infallible authority. And yes: there’s a moment where he starts defending slavery, which honestly caught me off guard in real time. If you want the calm historical discussion, it’s here. If you want the “what did I just hear” moment, you’ll definitely find it. Either way, I hope this helps you think more clearly about what counts as evidence, what counts as faith, and how people build worldviews. To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon:   / gayextrad   To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email. 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Return 02:43 Debate Setup: Historicity of Jesus 06:04 Exploring the Historical Jesus 18:34 Crucifixion and Resurrection Debate 32:03 Skepticism and Historical Evidence 47:51 The Presupposition of Jesus as God 48:25 Mary's Perpetual Virginity: Historical or Faith Claim? 49:28 Catholicism and Historical Claims 53:43 Epistemology and Circular Reasoning 55:45 First Principles and Trust in the Catholic Church 59:08 Faith vs. Historical Evidence 01:02:46 The Role of the Catholic Church in Morality 01:06:07 Debating the Stability of Worldviews 01:09:31 The Evolution of Catholic Doctrine 01:23:00 - DEFENDING SLAVERY 01:27:11 Closing Statements and Reflections