Mustafa Suleyman on Superintelligence, Microsoft’s OpenAI Deal, Broligarchy | The Mishal Husain Show

Mustafa Suleyman co-founded AI lab DeepMind when he was just 26 years old. Four years later, it was acquired by Google for a reported $400 million. He is now head of Microsoft’s AI unit, where he just unveiled a new superintelligence team tasked with creating an AI that can outperform humans. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Suleyman talks about the decisions society has to make about AI, the white-hot war over talent and the competition with other tech bros. 00:00 Introduction from Mishal Husain 01:15 - Suleyman’s daily use of AI 03:55 - Stoicism and the magic of AI 04:57 - Defining superintelligence 07:00 - The AI Wild West 08:47 - Humans misusing technology 11:21 - Promise of abundance, universal basic income 14:19 - Suleyman’s family and decision to drop out of Oxford 20:00 - "Decisions we make may have very lasting consequences” 21:36 - Exploring the ‘broligarchy’ 23:15 - His view of Sam Altman and Open AI 25:19 - Conversations with Demis Hassabis about Gemini 3 27:49 - “I’m sort of a centrist these days” 29:50 - AI containment and the role of government 31:48 - Microsoft’s revised deal with OpenAI: “It is a shift for us” 33:44 -The talent war and ‘Zuck’s’ pay packages 36:24 - Circular deals in AI: “Watching it carefully” 38:52 - “I really want to nail medical superintelligence” 40:18 - Suleyman on using AI for emotional support 43:15 - The UK lacks the “hustle culture” of Silicon Valley 45:30 - AI news reporters: “We’re exploring everything” Read this interview with Mishal’s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview Contact The Mishal Husain Show [email protected] Visit https://www.bloomberg.com/mishal Subscribe to Bloomberg Podcasts: https://bit.ly/BloombergPodcasts Visit us: https://www.bloomberg.com/podcasts For coverage on news, markets and more: http://www.bloomberg.com/video