"You Can’t Schedule Pain" — Sam Chand's Rule for Leaders
Sam Chand, leadership consultant, former college president, and longtime coach to pastors and organizational leaders, joins Ed Stetzer on Lead the Way in Visalia, CA to talk about the one thing every leader faces but no one can plan for: pain. In this conversation, Sam Chand explains why leadership growth only happens at the threshold of pain, why postponing hard conversations creates deeper damage, and how leaders can build the “pain muscle” required for long-term faithfulness. He reflects on warning signs leaders ignore, the danger of entitlement, and why the voices leaders listen to ultimately shape their integrity, decisions, and legacy. Catch more episodes of Lead the Way: • Lead the Way with Ed Stetzer | Season 01 Subscribe to Biola's channel: / @biolauniversity START YOUR SEMINARY JOURNEY! https://www.biola.edu/talbot/ GIVE TO TALBOT ⛽ Want to fuel the future of ministry? Give here: https://bit.ly/give-biola JOIN OUR COMMUNITY 📸 Instagram: / talbottheology 🌍 Our website: https://www.biola.edu/talbot ABOUT LEAD THE WAY Lead the Way is a national tour and weekly conversation series hosted by Ed Stetzer, Dean of Biola University's Talbot School of Theology, to help pastors and ministry leaders think biblically, live faithfully, and lead graciously amid cultural confusion, deconstruction, and division. It draws on groundbreaking research to equip churches for effective and faithful ministry. ABOUT US We're Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. We help leaders think biblically about everything and form their mind, heart, and soul for Gospel-centered, Spirit-led ministry. Through teaching, training, and resources like Lead the Way, we come alongside pastors and ministry leaders serving the church around the world.

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