CNC Dialogues - Scott Fischer & Aldrich Chan: The Science of Psychedelics and Therapy

Scott Fisher, M.D. is a Board-Certified Psychiatrist and Lead Facilitator & Clinical Program Manager at Segal Trials’ Center for Psychedelic Research located in Lauderhill, FL. His work has included Phase 2 and 3 FDA clinical studies of psilocybin, LSD, and 5-MeO-DMT for the treatment of depression and anxiety disorders. He received his medical degree from The Feinberg School of Medicine at Northwestern University in 2009 and is one of only few licensed psychiatrists in the country with advanced certification in Psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy from California Institute of Integral Studies, the only accredited institution of higher learning in this field. In todays discussion we take a trip through magic mushrooms, LSD and DMT, touching upon how they impact the user at the level of psychology, then biology, specifically: neural networks and neurotransmitters. We discuss his role as a facilitator in psychedelic trials, what one might expect if they were to join a study and the progress their trials are making in relationship to their use in the treatment of anxiety and depression. Several interesting subjects are discussed, such a Mckennas stoned ape hypothesis, Meetings with machine elves, and whether psychedelics enable us to view reality with more accuracy. As usual we end with a round of rapid fire questions. Feel free to skip around if you find any of these topics of interest to you. If you are interested in participating in trials: www.segaltrials.com My website: drchancnc.com Instagram: @draldrichan Books: Reassembling Models of Reality: https://a.co/d/9s6Qu2J Chapters 0:00 Introduction 1:50 Phase 2 and 3 Definition 6:52 Psilocybin and brain 13:14 Default Mode Network 21:21 Stoned Ape theory 25:29 Psychedelic Participants 35:16 Depression and anxiety 38:12 Risk Factors 46:11 LSD 52:19 Psychedelics and Spirituality 01:08:11 DMT 01:11:55 DMT and brain 01:13:46 machine elves 01:23:28 Personal Experience 01:29:05 Rapid Fire Questions