Argenx: Changing Lives with Llamas - [Business Breakdowns, EP.122]

Note: This conversation was recorded on 19 July 2023. Argenx is an immunology company founded in 2008. Today, it's a $30 billion company set to produce over a billion dollars in sales. They're known for their skill in developing antibodies for complex disease targets and owe a large part of their medical breakthroughs to llamas, which have similar antibodies in their immune system to those found in humans.  To break down Argenx, I'm joined by Julia Angeles, an investment manager at Baillie Gifford. Throughout this conversation, we'll discuss how Argenx navigates the complex world of drug development, clinical trials, regulatory approvals, and the ultimate commercialization of autoimmune therapies. We'll also learn more about their transition from a venture capital backed business to its 2017 IPO, and today, a meaningful revenue generating business. We hope you enjoy this business breakdown. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to the best content to learn more, check out the episode page here: https://www.joincolossus.com/episodes... ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the modern research platform for leading investors. Stretch your research budget with flexible expert calls you can trust. At a fraction of the cost of traditional expert networks, Tegus customers pay only what an expert charges – with zero markups and no confusing call credits – netting an average 70% savings. Don’t want to conduct a full hour call? Tegus offers the ability to schedule 30-minutes, an offer you won’t find anywhere else. And they don’t stop there. With white-glove custom sourcing for every project and robust compliance measures, including a dedicated 50+ analyst team that vets every call transcript, Tegus ensures your privacy and protection. As the industry innovator for qualitative insights, Tegus helps you find the right experts you need at a quality and speed that can’t be matched. For a limited time, as a listener, you can trial Tegus for free by visiting tegus.co/patrick. ----- Business Breakdowns is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Business Breakdowns, visit joincolossus.com/episodes. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @JoinColossus | @patrick_oshag | @jspujji | @zbfuss | @ReustleMatt | @domcooke Shownotes (00:00:00) - Introduction (00:03:49) - (First question) - Ways the immune system protects us and fails us (00:06:00) - Current patient treatments and evolving solutions to existing problems  (00:07:52) - The key difference between how the biotech community is addressing big diseases versus autoimmune disorders (00:09:55) - What sparked Julia’s interest in Argenx (00:14:01) - Explanation how we use animal antibodies to help research progression (00:15:25) - The foundations of the business (00:17:57) - The evolution of the business and its commercial success thus far (00:20:22) - Transitioning from lab antibodies to a commercial product ready for consumers (00:23:42) - The infrastructure needed to maintain and grow Argenx (00:26:43) - Indicators of commercial success (00:29:27) - The basic revenue model for this business type (00:30:49) - Go to market strategies for developed drugs  (00:34:39) - Pricing and patient protection of these newly developed drugs  (00:37:46) - Cures versus creating treatments with recurring revenue streams (00:39:38) - The importance of the current team composition  (00:41:44) - Julia’s perspective on what they are willing to invest to grow the company (00:43:49) - Normalized profitability for biotech companies such as this (00:45:59) - Potential risks to the current business model (00:49:22) - Lessons learned from studying Argenx #podcast #businessbreakdowns #argenx

Nubank: David vs Goliaths - [Business Breakdowns, EP.123]
▶︎

Nubank: David vs Goliaths - [Business Breakdowns, EP.123]

Tim Van Hauwermeiren, argenx CEO: ‘Everyone Can Innovate’
▶︎

Tim Van Hauwermeiren, argenx CEO: ‘Everyone Can Innovate’

How Kaz Nejatian Is Rebuilding Opendoor
▶︎

How Kaz Nejatian Is Rebuilding Opendoor

Círculo Magenta: Adán Augusto has his visa revoked
▶︎

Círculo Magenta: Adán Augusto has his visa revoked

Berkshire Hathaway: The Incomparable Compounder - [Business Breakdowns, EP. 63]
▶︎

Berkshire Hathaway: The Incomparable Compounder - [Business Breakdowns, EP. 63]

Leading in the Age of AI: A Conversation with NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang | Global Conference 2026
▶︎

Leading in the Age of AI: A Conversation with NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang | Global Conference 2026

The SpaceX Selloff Has Only Just Begun
▶︎

The SpaceX Selloff Has Only Just Begun

Insight Talk: Tim Van Hauwermeiren and the success story behind argenx
▶︎

Insight Talk: Tim Van Hauwermeiren and the success story behind argenx

"We Will Open Africa" — A Conversation with Aliko Dangote
▶︎

"We Will Open Africa" — A Conversation with Aliko Dangote

You’ll stop using ChatGPT after listening to this | Jonathan Pageau [ARC 2026]
▶︎

You’ll stop using ChatGPT after listening to this | Jonathan Pageau [ARC 2026]

Your Phone Is Destroying Your Sense of Meaning | Arthur Brooks [ARC 2026]
▶︎

Your Phone Is Destroying Your Sense of Meaning | Arthur Brooks [ARC 2026]

Yonatan Zeigen on Israel's new political party ("A Place For Us All") - Jung & Naiv: Episode 837
▶︎

Yonatan Zeigen on Israel's new political party ("A Place For Us All") - Jung & Naiv: Episode 837

Everything we know about AI in 14 minutes – with Anthropic's Chloe Lubinski [ARC 2026]
▶︎

Everything we know about AI in 14 minutes – with Anthropic's Chloe Lubinski [ARC 2026]

Jim Chanos: The AI Bubble Is “Much Worse” Than Dot-Com
▶︎

Jim Chanos: The AI Bubble Is “Much Worse” Than Dot-Com

Marketing Expert: The Playbook Behind Every Great Campaign | Rory Sutherland
▶︎

Marketing Expert: The Playbook Behind Every Great Campaign | Rory Sutherland

Whalen: Banks' Growing Private Credit Risk, Double-Digit Inflation Call & Housing's 2005 Warning
▶︎

Whalen: Banks' Growing Private Credit Risk, Double-Digit Inflation Call & Housing's 2005 Warning

Mick Jagger Can’t Name One Good Thing About Getting Older | The Interview
▶︎

Mick Jagger Can’t Name One Good Thing About Getting Older | The Interview

AI, Agency & the Future of Education with Dr. Sabba Quidwai
▶︎

AI, Agency & the Future of Education with Dr. Sabba Quidwai

The AI Skills Nobody is Teaching (And Everyone Needs) | AI Expert Ethan Mollick
▶︎

The AI Skills Nobody is Teaching (And Everyone Needs) | AI Expert Ethan Mollick

Consciousness Expert: The Level of Awareness That Makes Everything Feel Effortless | Peter Sage
▶︎

Consciousness Expert: The Level of Awareness That Makes Everything Feel Effortless | Peter Sage