Wovenwar Interview: As I Lay Dying & Touring Struggles | Ryan Minic, Ryan's Rock Show

In an interview with Ryan Minic of Ryan's Rock Show, Nick Hipa and Shane Blay of Wovenwar reflected on their past musical projects, the struggles of being in a band, and the importance of humility in the industry. They shared stories about their old band Evelynn, which ultimately led to their separate paths—Hipa joining As I Lay Dying and Blay becoming a part of Oh, Sleeper. After years apart, they reunited to form Wovenwar, and stepping back on stage together felt like returning to their roots. Hipa discussed his early days with As I Lay Dying, explaining how his first connection with the band came through Evelynn while they were both on Pluto Records. He recalled their early struggles, including playing to just a handful of people in a church basement on a Sunday afternoon. Even though the audience was small, the experience laid the foundation for future success, reinforcing the idea that every band has to pay its dues. Touring hardships were a major part of the conversation, including a grueling trip through the Mojave Desert where their van overheated, forcing them to drive with the heater on in 127-degree weather. Hipa had to use a stick to press the gas pedal because the floor was too hot to touch. These moments, while brutal, became badges of honor—stories that highlighted the perseverance needed to survive as a band. Blay briefly touched on his time playing with Between The Buried And Me, describing it as an era filled with intense guitar practice and a steady diet of vegan food. He explained how those experiences helped shape his approach to Wovenwar, where he transitioned from a guitarist to a lead vocalist, an evolution that Hipa had witnessed firsthand. The band also reflected on handling criticism in the digital age. They acknowledged that while opinions are everywhere, the only ones that truly matter come from their bandmates and close industry professionals. Hipa warned against letting online negativity influence artistic decisions, emphasizing that bands should stay true to their vision rather than catering to internet critics. Another key topic was balancing financial survival with pursuing a music career. Both musicians admitted that making a living as a band is tough, requiring constant side hustles and smart money management. Hipa stressed the importance of working on projects outside of music to avoid putting financial pressure on the band, while Blay reinforced the idea of “the hustle”—doing whatever it takes to make it work. The interview wrapped up with discussions about staying humble in the industry. They highlighted their recent tour with Thank You Scientist, a band they admired for their immense talent and down-to-earth attitude. Hipa noted that arrogance rarely leads to long-term success in their genre, emphasizing that the most respected musicians are usually the most humble. Through all the struggles, Wovenwar remained focused on growth, both as musicians and as individuals, determined to carve out their own path in the metal scene. 00:04 their first band together Evelynn 01:22 stories about Evelynn's tour with As I Lay Dying in 2001 03:14 Shane used to play in Between The Buried And Me 03:32 constructive criticism vs shit talking 05:18 whose opinions they value 06:26 how to balance a job and still pursue your passion 08:22 is there pressure after As I Lay Dying? 10:07 bad advice, what not to do 12:04 the importance of humility You can read about this interview with Nick & Shane and more about Wovenwar on Ryan's Rock Show: http://rrs.la/1LN9IN9