「分別はほぼ無意味」ゴミの行く着く先は結局同じ？リサイクル業界の闇に迫る【NewsPicks/吉村崇/大室正志/安部 敏樹/岸博幸/麦谷貴司/MSC/OFFRECO.】

[Sponsored by MSC Co., Ltd.] Learn more about MSC here: https://bit.ly/4djQceX The topic is "Does that sorting really make sense? Taboos in the recycling industry" Is the common sense notion that "recycling = good" truly correct today? The amount of waste and garbage continues to increase year after year, and as collection has expanded to include "dirty plastics" and "composite materials," the reality is that we are relying on "heat recovery through incineration" because cleaning and processing require energy and water. Furthermore, there are numerous problems related to waste, such as recycling rates that are only discussed in terms of collection volume, designs that cannot be dismantled, outsourcing by waste-generating companies, the lack of an outlet for recycled materials, and the lack of traceability. In this project, we will directly address consumer misunderstandings and corporate contradictions, and thoroughly consider "what should be stopped and what should be changed" in order to move forward with a circular economy. What will we learn? Learn hints for improving tomorrow's business from "off-the-record" stories shared by our guests that you can only hear here, and aim for "co-creation" of Japan's future! MC: Takashi Yoshimura / Masashi Omuro Guests Toshiki Abe (CEO, Ridilaba) Hiroyuki Kishi Takashi Mugitani (CEO, MSC Co., Ltd.) 00:00 Digest 01:26 Basic Knowledge of "Recycling" 02:11 Is That Sorting Meaningful? Taboos in the "Recycling Industry" 02:39 Introduction of Professor Omuro by Others 04:22 Is That Sorting Meaningful? Doubts about "Recycling = Good" 06:23 Creating a Circular Economy Through Cooperation Between Companies and Individual Consumers 07:22 Where Does Sorted Garbage Go? 08:09 Corporate contradictions continue... The "outsourcing" mentality that prevents recycling 08:39 The drawbacks of high-quality packaging 10:42 Corporate contradictions continue... The "outsourcing" mentality that prevents recycling 11:02 Recycling or incineration: The twisted structure of processing costs 12:54 "Thermal recycling" is not recycling! 13:48 Japan's waste export problem 15:05 How much responsibility should companies take for waste? 15:45 Facing the Reiwa oil shock with recycling 17:08 What should we ask of the government for a recycling society? 18:16 Don't let it end with "goodness"! Exit Strategies for Advancing the Recycling Industry 18:28 "Design" for Advancing the Recycling Industry 19:41 "Discharge" for Advancing the Recycling Industry 21:59 "Processing" for Advancing the Recycling Industry 23:18 "Utilization" for Advancing the Recycling Industry 24:04 "Tracking" for Advancing the Recycling Industry 24:58 The Recycling Market: Guaranteed Growth 25:40 The New Revolution in Recycling Has Already Begun 31:51 Deep Dive into Industry Rumors: OFFRECO.BOX 32:08 Are Plastic Bottles Better for the Environment Than Reusable Bottles? 34:15 Co-creation Through "Recycling"! Japan's Future 35:05 More Innovation in Recycling 35:38 Let's Create a Circular Japanese Model Where Consumers and Businesses Work Together 36:01 Recycling Starts with Learning! 36:21 Professor Omuro's Summary for Today