Fireside Chat - Ship 26 NYC
The next 10 billion knowledge workers coming online aren't humans. They're agents, and they're blind: they don't see buttons, they want semantics, APIs, and CLIs. Recorded live at Vercel Ship 2026 in New York City, Guillermo Rauch closes the day with Ivan Zhao (Co-Founder and CEO, Notion) on computing history, religious experiences with language models, and refounding Notion for the agent era. CHAPTERS 0:00 New York has a real summer 0:59 From informatics olympiads to Notion 2:22 Engelbart, Alan Kay, and the Mother of All Demos 5:18 Rebuilding on React 6:55 Semantics over rainbow colors 8:57 Religious experience #1: GPT-4 in a hotel room 13:07 Religious experience #2: the Claude Opus Christmas 16:25 Designing for agents: APIs first, UI last 20:45 The Notion developer platform and Switzerland of AI 27:31 Lightning round: Refounding LINKS Notion → https://www.notion.com Notion for developers → https://developers.notion.com Ship 2026 recap → https://vercel.com/blog/vercel-ship-2... Start building → https://vercel.com FOLLOW VERCEL X → https://x.com/vercel LinkedIn → / vercel GitHub → https://github.com/vercel #Vercel #VercelShip #Notion #AIAgents #IvanZhao #DesignForAgents

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