The #1 Staffing Mistake Churches Make That Wastes Resources

The Unstuck Group's Amy Anderson on how to know if your church is overstaffed (it probably is), the key differences between growing and declining churches, and leading a company after its founder dies. ✅ GROW YOUR LEADERSHIP WITH RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO: Show Notes and Free Podcast Community: http://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes Gloo Messaging https://gloo.com/workspace/messaging ---------- Welcome to The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast, a podcast about leadership, change, and personal growth. I hope this episode helps you thrive in life and leadership. Subscribe to my channel so you don't miss any of the newest episodes:    / @careynieuwhof   Find the show notes and more at http://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes 🔗 CONNECT WITH ME:   / careynieuwhof     / careynieuwhof   🎧 CAREY NIEUWHOF LEADERSHIP PODCAST: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3nG6FJp... Interested in what gear I use to record my podcast? I list all of the equipment in this blog post: https://careynieuwhof.com/the-home-st... ---------- Intro Music:Song: Alexey Anisimov - Always Be Beautiful Music provided by Tunetank. Free Download: https://tunetank.com/track/4144-alway... ---------- 🎥 Chapters Reasons for Being Overstaffed (00:00:00) Discusses the reasons why a church might be overstaffed, focusing on ministry scope and staffing ratios. Tony Morgan's Passing (00:00:55) Carrie expresses condolences and asks Amy to share details about Tony's sudden death. Transitioning Leadership (00:10:56) Discussion about the leadership transition and Amy's feelings about taking over after Tony. Grieving Together (00:12:47) Amy describes how the team gathered to grieve and remember Tony together. Tony's Leadership Legacy (00:14:19) Exploration of what Tony did well to prepare the team for this unexpected transition. Stabilizing the Team (00:18:38) Amy discusses strategies for stabilizing the team after Tony's unexpected passing. Communication and Focus (00:19:58) The importance of communication and focus on operations following Tony's death is highlighted. Navigating Family Dynamics (00:22:06) Amy shares her approach to maintaining relationships with Tony's wife, Emily, in the leadership transition. Thriving After Loss (00:25:37) The team’s unexpected success after Tony's passing is discussed, along with the factors contributing to it. Volunteer Leadership Trends (00:28:34) The discussion focuses on the trend of growing churches having fewer paid staff and more volunteer leaders. Vital Signs for Staffing (00:32:33) Amy outlines key metrics to assess if a church is overstaffed or understaffed. Hiring Recommendations (00:35:03) Amy provides guidance on hiring priorities for new church plants or growing churches. Children's Ministry Importance (00:35:33) The rationale for prioritizing children's ministry over student ministry in church staffing is explained. Discipleship Pastor Hiring (00:36:08) Amy discusses the timing and necessity of hiring a discipleship pastor in the church structure. Financial Health Indicators (00:37:00) The conversation explores the paradox of declining churches having higher per capita giving despite overall decline. Understanding Attendance Metrics (00:38:16) Discussion on church attendance, serving, and giving metrics indicating growth or decline. Differences Between Growing and Declining Churches (00:39:18) Exploration of consistent data differentiating growing churches from those in decline. Church Governance Structures (00:43:42) Analysis of board sizes and committee structures in growing vs. declining churches. Generational Representation in Leadership (00:44:28) Discussion on Gen Z representation in church staff and strategies for inclusion. Multi-Site Church Dynamics (00:46:53) Insights on the growth of multi-site churches and their operational strategies. Multi-Site as an Evangelism Strategy (00:48:34) Clarification that multi-site is an evangelism strategy, not merely a growth tactic. Challenges in Hiring Church Leaders (00:50:24) Addressing the difficulties in finding and hiring effective church staff. Developing Future Leaders (00:52:02) Strategies for identifying and raising up future church leaders from within. Free Access to Unstuck Learning Hub (00:56:23) Amy discusses offering listeners free access to the Unstuck Learning Hub for church metrics assessment.