The Error of Caragounis: Detailed Critique of "The Error of Erasmus" by Chrys Caragounis
This video is a detailed critique of "The Error of Erasmus and Un-Greek Pronunciations of Greek" (1995) by Χρήστος Καραγκούνης (Chrys Caragounis). Caragounis' paper is often shared by those who affirm that the Ancient Greek pronunciation was the same or nearly the same as that of Modern Greek. This paper and its ideas usually appeal to the linguistically illiterate, among whom Caragounis is to be named, who favor Modern Greek phonology for one reason or another. Since most people don't have the linguistic knowledge to readily challenge each of Caragounis' notions head-on, this video is an attempt to shine light on the incredibly numerous of errors of logic and facts made by the author in this quite infamous work on "historical" phonology. SOURCES Vox Graeca, by w. Sidney Allen https://amzn.to/3FsiCT6 Vox Latina, by W. Sidney Allen https://amzn.to/3WdPxSY Greek: A History of the Language and its People, by Geoffrey Horrocks https://amzn.to/3FXYedR Medieval and Early Modern Greek, by David Holton et al. https://amzn.to/3zkhgqO The Pronunciation of Greek and Latin, Edgar Howard Sturtevant https://amzn.to/3W4nt45 The Phonology of Attic in the Hellenistic Period (1978), by Sven-Tage Teodorsson The Phonemic System of the Attic Dialect 400-340 BC (1974), by Sven-Tage Teodorsson Romanitas and the Latin Language (2003), by JN Adams https://archive.org/details/j.-n.-ada... The Regional Diversification of Latin 200 BC - AD 600 (2008), by JN Adams https://amzn.to/3TRGZ2w Antonius Jannarius “A Historical Greek Grammar” (1890) https://play.google.com/books/reader?... ARTICLES Will Annis “The Error of Caragounis” (2008) http://www.aoidoi.org/articles/caraer... Erasmus “Dē Rēctā Latīnī Graecīque Sermōnis Prōnūntiātiōne” https://www.hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/Ch... Luke Amadeus Ranieri "Variants of Lucian Pronunciation" (2023) / 80661461 Erasmian Pron. and its divergences: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunc... Archaic Greek Alphabets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic... Isochrony: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isochrony CITED VIDEOS Reading the Bible in Greek with Maria, Matthew 6 Modern Greek Pronunciation: • Matthew 6 Modern Greek Pronunciation Reading the Bible in Greek with Maria, Matthew 6 Erasmian Pronunciation: • Matthew 6 Erasmian Pronunciation Delphic Paean by Athenaios Athenaiou: • Delphic Paean by Athenaios Athenaiou Accompanying sheet music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphic... Ioannis Stratakis’ (Podium-Arts) recording of the Apologia of Socrates: • Apology of Socrates, by Plato (reconstruct... MY VIDEOS Ancient Greek Pronunciation: https://shorturl.at/QRSW2 IPA Vowels: • Vowel Pronunciation Tutorial • IPA (Intern... IPA Consonants: • Consonant Pronunciation Tutorial • IPA (In... What Classical Attic ACTUALLY sounded like 🤯 Vulgar Attic pronunciation: • What Classical Attic ACTUALLY sounded like... "Vulgar" Attic vs. Classical Attic Pronunciation: • "Vulgar" Attic vs. Classical Attic Pronunc... Retracted S in Greek & Latin: How to recite Latin meter: https://shorturl.at/jEO14 OTHER Armenian audio samples: http://archive.phonetics.ucla.edu/Lan... Audio file 1: http://archive.phonetics.ucla.edu/Lan... The corresponding Aremenian text: http://archive.phonetics.ucla.edu/Lan... Intercapēdinēs Latīnae by Rodrigo Portela https://www.spreaker.com/show/interca... Timeline of Greek Pronunciation Changes: http://bit.ly/ranierigreekpronunciation Timeline of authors of Latin, including the grammarians: https://bit.ly/ranierilatingreekauthors 🦂 Latin Pronunciation & Conversation: / 53942894 📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks: https://luke-ranieri.myshopify.com 🦂 Support my work on Patreon: / lukeranieri 📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks: https://luke-ranieri.myshopify.com 🎙 Latin & Greek audio: https://lukeranieri.com/audio #greek #attic #pronunciation 0:00:00 Intro 0:08:17 Summary of Teodorsson 0:11:53 Will Annis’ “The Error of Caragounis” (2008) 0:28:19 Erasmus’ Dialogue 0:38:48 His error on the circumflex accent 0:54:16 Cargounis’ “The Error of Erasmus and Un-Greek Pronunciations of Greek” (1995) 0:54:26 1. The Problem 1:02:17 2. The Error of Erasmus 1:08:34 The original “practical joke” explained 1:18:22 Problems with Erasmian in practice today 1:25:36 3. Historical Circumstances 1:29:18 Jannaris’ error 1:37:29 4. The “Historical” Pronunciation of Greek 2:01:55 Wrong alphabets 2:17:25 Vowel length 2:25:21 Delphic hymn 2:39:05 4.1 Criteria for determining the Pronunciation 2:55:40 4.2 Vowels & Diphthongs 3:19:10 4.3 Consonants 3:38:38 5. Accents, breathings, etc. (Prosody) 3:59:25 chain of wrongness 4:05:36 μh λh ρh explained 4:10:10 6. Corollaries 4:15:21 watch me agree with Caragounis wholeheartedly! 4:43:49 Romance Speakers & Classical Latin: Rodrigo Portela & Irene La Preziosa

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