Aspiring Finishers

Drew and Dan break down real-world software development—what’s working, what’s not, and where things are going. Topics range from app development and AI to conference takeaways (Deep Dish Swift), technical deep dives, and the occasional detour into reverse engineering and industry absurdities. Practical, opinionated, and grounded in actual experience. Chapters 00:00 Hello! 06:13 App Development and AI 11:58 Deep Dish Swift Conference 19:04 Technical Insights and Challenges 26:10 Reverse Engineering and Humorous Presentations Finding Drew: https://bsky.app/profile/thedrewbenso... https://x.com/thedrewbenson?s=21 Finding Dan: https://bsky.app/profile/danoleary.me   / devdanoleary   Links for things mentioned in this episode: Dan’s new Swift blog, https://certainlyswift.com/ Drew’s YouTube live stream coding channel,    / @drewbensoncodes   9 to 5 Mac’s story on 4-star reviews:https://9to5mac.com/2026/04/20/app-st... Dan’s social check-in (and Swarm replacement) app,, https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-mid... Relay Team Finder - releasing in August  - for Aspiring Finishers https://deepdishswift.com/ https://tow.com/ and his great talk on being adaptable, https://www.youtube.com/live/HzbDJL0_... https://davidbeck.co/’s talk, https://www.youtube.com/live/-m5h2jXP... https://www.jazzyapps.com/’s awesome talk on https://www.youtube.com/live/-m5h2jXP... Drew and Dan in the Morning can be found on: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... https://open.spotify.com/show/0ZQTN7V... *    / @drewanddanmorning   https://overcast.fm/itunes1894918993 Thanks for joining us!