Some Girls Opting Out of Marriage Others Sex: What Determines Which?

Malcolm and Simone Collins dive into two fascinating (and very different) trends among young women: one group that's happily dating but swearing off marriage forever, and another group embracing intentional celibacy in response to modern hookup culture. Why are so many high-achieving women rejecting marriage altogether? Do they have a point about autonomy, identity, and avoiding "unpaid labor"? And why are younger women opting out of sex entirely — claiming dating apps have ruined intimacy? We break down the articles, compare the two groups (with some brutal phenotype observations), discuss how media shaped different generations' views on relationships, and explore why both paths ultimately lead away from family formation. From Tinder height discrimination to the rise of "divorced woman" as an aspirational identity, this episode examines the collapsing sexual and marriage marketplaces — and why pronatalism offers a radically different vision for fulfillment. Timestamps below 👇 Join the discussion: Are these women making rational choices given today's incentives? Or are they missing out on deeper meaning through family? Subscribe for more unfiltered takes on demographics, culture, and the future of civilization. Time Stamps: 00:00 - Intro + Invader Zim height society meme 00:01:00 - Two distinct trends: women refusing marriage vs. intentional celibacy 00:02:00 - Guessing which group is which from photos (phenotype differences) 00:03:00 - Makeup, attractiveness, and what it signals 00:04:00 - AI physiognomy analysis of Malcolm & Simone's faces 00:06:00 - Article 1: Women proudly dating but never marrying 00:09:00 - Being upfront about no-marriage intentions 00:10:00 - Do women still benefit from marriage in 2025? 00:11:00 - Explosive growth of the Based Camp subreddit 00:12:00 - Men falling behind: education, homelessness, workplace deaths 00:13:00 - Digression: historical circumcision practices 00:15:00 - Men gain more health/emotional benefits from marriage? 00:16:00 - Modern media's lack of aspirational marriages 00:17:00 - The new female hero's journey: trauma and self-focus 00:18:00 - "Divorced woman" as a proud online identity 00:19:00 - Marriage means becoming "we" — losing the "I" 00:21:00 - Falling into traditional roles (even unintentionally) 00:22:00 - Emotional labor and unequal standards 00:25:00 - Media sold happiness through self-fulfillment, not family 00:29:00 - Article 2: Young women choosing celibacy over hookup culture 00:33:00 - Historic vs. modern views on celibacy 00:35:00 - Hookup culture ruins intimacy and clouds judgment 00:36:00 - The dating app paradox: women chase top men, men treat them disposably 00:38:00 - Invader Zim meme returns — Tinder as height-based dystopia 00:41:00 - No one is winning in the current system 00:43:00 - Shoutout to R Fab AI (character chat platform) 00:46:00 - Accidental sex in a 4-year "celibate" streak 00:48:00 - Being blunt about no sex until commitment 00:50:00 - YouTube milestones and kids wanting the Gold Play Button 00:53:00 - Octavian narrating life like a YouTuber 00:55:00 - Kids cooking toy dinosaurs (because chickens are dinosaurs) 00:56:00 - Dinner plans and family life tangents 00:59:00 - Happiness through doing kind things for others 01:01:00 - Homeschooling update: treadmill desk success 01:02:00 - Cute kid clip: Octavian showing his magnet-tile creation