"אנחנו במזרח התיכון" - סיכום התהליכים המדיניים והביטחוניים שעיצבו את ההווה | פרופ' אהוד מנור פרק 5/6

"On Meaning Plus" Subscription Plan ➕: https://bit.ly/4bZqvRi Early access to episodes 🎧 Premium clips 💎 Weekly meeting 🖥️ Access to courses 🧮 Support for independent and influential media outlets 📢 Episode 5 of a historical mini-series with Prof. Ehud Manor In this episode of the podcast, Attorney Tamir Dortal hosts Professor Ehud Manor for a conversation about the political and security history of the State of Israel between 1987 and 2007. During the episode, the two dive into the depths of two dramatic decisions that shaped the face of the Middle East: the Oslo Accords and the disengagement plan. Professor Manor masterfully analyzes the mindset that guided the Israeli leadership in those years, and reveals the conceptual failures that underpinned these moves. Through a review of Dov Weisglas's book, he points to the disconnect between The classic military concept and the diplomatic illusions of the country's leaders. The episode describes how the abandonment of physical territory in favor of vague terms of "burning consciousness" and "deterrence" led to deep crises, the price for which Israeli society is still paying today. Did Yitzhak Rabin really intend to establish a Palestinian state, or did Shimon Peres and Yossi Beilin drag him there? What really stood behind Ariel Sharon's decision to withdraw from the Gaza Strip? And why did the IDF choose to ignore the operative conclusions of the Winograd Commission after the Second Lebanon War? These are just some of the open questions that the conversation bravely and without filters addresses. Listeners to this episode will receive critical intellectual and historical tools for understanding the roots of the conflict and Israeli politics. They will hear a precise analysis of the power dynamics within Israeli governments, and learn how moves that appear to be decisions of individual leaders are in fact the result of deep ideological currents. This is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand where we came from, and where we are going, especially in these days of national self-examination. Join us on a fascinating historical journey that sheds new light on the events we all thought we knew. Merchandise 👕🏷: https://bit.ly/AlHmMerchandise Coordination and Production 💼 - Yosef: 052-952-2058 List of Reading Recommendations 📚: https://bit.ly/3rXRwvN Newsletter 📧 - http://eepurl.com/iv2c6k 00:00:00 Opening: Introduction to the Series and the Importance of Podcast Support 00:01:23 Framing the Years: From 1987 to the Winograd Commission 00:04:11 The Disengagement Plan as a Direct Continuation of the Oslo Concept 00:06:14 Contempt for Natural Obstacles: Dov Weisglas' Book 00:11:36 Fear of Public Opinion: Rabin's Security Perception in 1993 00:15:48 The Roadmap and the Real Reasons That Led For disengagement 00:20:00 Government crises as a cover for the struggle over Oslo 00:23:20 The dream of the "new Middle East" versus the reality of threats 00:27:27 The hidden confrontation: Yitzhak Rabin versus Shimon Peres 00:33:40 The Jordanian delegation and the negotiations versus the secret channel 00:37:40 The Jordanian option: King Hussein's abandonment of citizenship 00:43:53 The peace fraud: Arafat and the Palestinian phase plan 00:48:48 Summary of the period and the illusion of territories for peace (Premium) #podcast #about_meaning Studio design: Yair Karl