Charity, I. Forgiveness by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 15, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 7)

Is there anything more painful than forgiveness, when you feel like they don’t deserve one scrap of it? Even if you do forgive, does forgiveness mean stopping their due proportional punishment from an authority? Here Lewis continues to look at those parts of Christian morality which are the most unpopular. Notes below... Lewis wrote a broadcast on Charity for 15 minutes, but the BBC cut his segment to ten minutes, so he could only cover that part of Charity which deals with ‘forgiveness’. Nevertheless, the radio talks ended up being printed and expanded to include his original notes, and the subject of Charity became two separate chapters in the book ‘Mere Christianity’ – ‘Forgiveness’ and ‘Charity’. You can find the book here: http://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christiani... (1:43) You can find the quick links to the scripture references in the comments section below. (4:08) Many people seem to think forgiving means excusing: “They think that if you ask them to forgive someone who has cheated or bullied them, you are trying to make out that there was really no cheating or no bullying. But if that were so, there would be nothing to forgive. They keep on replying 'But I tell you the man broke a most solemn promise.' Exactly: that is precisely what you have to forgive. (This doesn't mean you must necessarily believe his next promise. It does mean that you must make every effort to kill every trace of resentment in your own heart - every wish to humiliate or hurt him or to pay him out)” ('On Forgiveness'). (8:53) “Those who would reject patriotism entirely do not seem to have considered what will certainly step—has already begun to step—into its place. For a long time yet, or perhaps forever, nations will live in danger. Rulers must somehow nerve their subjects to defend them or at least to prepare for their defence. Where the sentiment of patriotism has been destroyed this can be done only by presenting every international conflict in a purely ethical light. If people will spend neither sweat nor blood for “their country” they must be made to feel that they are spending them for justice, or civilisation, or humanity. This is a step down, not up. Patriotic sentiment did not of course need to disregard ethics. Good men needed to be convinced that their country’s cause was just; but it was still their country’s cause, not the cause of justice as such.” The original broadcast had the following words emphasised (italicised in the book) which add to understanding: (shown in CAPS): “But all depends on REALLY WANTING”; "So loving my enemies doesn’t apparently mean thinking THEM nice either”; “the ordinary word to KILL and the word to MURDER”; and “Christ used the MURDER one in all three gospel accounts”.

Faith (‘Faith and Works’) by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 18, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 12)
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Faith (‘Faith and Works’) by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 18, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 12)

Sexual Morality by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 14, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 5)
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Sexual Morality by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 14, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 5)

The Great Sin by C. S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 16, Mere Christianity, Bk. 3, Chapter 8).
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The Great Sin by C. S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 16, Mere Christianity, Bk. 3, Chapter 8).

Social Morality by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 12, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 3)
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Social Morality by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 12, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 3)

Is Christianity Hard or Easy? by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 24, Mere Christianity, Bk 4, Chapter 8)
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Is Christianity Hard or Easy? by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 24, Mere Christianity, Bk 4, Chapter 8)

Morality and Psychoanalysis by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 13, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 4)
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Morality and Psychoanalysis by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 13, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 4)

C. S. Lewis - On forgiveness
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C. S. Lewis - On forgiveness

C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity Lecture 1A (Chris Mitchell)
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C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity Lecture 1A (Chris Mitchell)

Tim Keller: What Is Biblical Forgiveness?
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Tim Keller: What Is Biblical Forgiveness?

The Perfect Penitent by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 9, Mere Christianity, Bk 2, Chapter 4)
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The Perfect Penitent by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 9, Mere Christianity, Bk 2, Chapter 4)

Faith (Belief as a Virtue) by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 17, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 11)
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Faith (Belief as a Virtue) by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 17, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 11)

The Three-Personal God by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 20, Mere Christianity, Bk 4, Chapter 2)
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The Three-Personal God by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 20, Mere Christianity, Bk 4, Chapter 2)

Christian Marriage by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 14a, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 6)
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Christian Marriage by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 14a, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 6)

Man or Rabbit? by CS Lewis
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Man or Rabbit? by CS Lewis

The Shocking Alternative by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 8, Mere Christianity, Bk 2, Chapter 3)
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The Shocking Alternative by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 8, Mere Christianity, Bk 2, Chapter 3)

The Day You Stop Romanticizing People — Carl Jung
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The Day You Stop Romanticizing People — Carl Jung

How To Make Your Prayers More Effective | C.S. Lewis Fireside Chat
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How To Make Your Prayers More Effective | C.S. Lewis Fireside Chat

Hope by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 16B, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 10)
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Hope by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 16B, Mere Christianity, Bk 3, Chapter 10)

C. S. Lewis - The World’s Last Night
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C. S. Lewis - The World’s Last Night

Good Infection by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 21, Mere Christianity, Bk 4, Chapter 4)
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Good Infection by C.S. Lewis Doodle (BBC Talk 21, Mere Christianity, Bk 4, Chapter 4)